• ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net
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    21 days ago

    Deltachat and Jabber, both decentralized encrypted messaging apps (as opposed to Signal, which is centralized), don’t even require an email to create an account, let alone a phone number or payment.

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      20 days ago

      Delta chat is also less secure than Signal because it runs on standard email servers, which inherently leak more tracking metadata (like sender and recipient addresses) and lack Signal’s advanced privacy features like Perfect Forward Secrecy.

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        5 days ago

        These addresses are randomly generated addresses which you can rotate whenever you want which seems better than giving signal your phone number or payment information

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        20 days ago

        Deltachat has an extremely smooth on boarding process and is the same app for all platforms, but it cannot do voice calls or screen share (you can leave voice messages though).

        Jabber/XMPP generally has a less smooth UX, and different apps across different platforms (except the Movim client, which is a web app that works on all platforms, but doesn’t do reliable notifications on mobile).

        With the Movim client, Jabber/XMPP is basically a complete Discord and Signal replacement. It can do group video calls, screensharing with audio (only with chromium based browser for now), as well as voice and text channels under different servers.

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            3 days ago

            Woah, how did I miss that?! Thanks for the heads up :)

            It looks like it still doesn’t do group calls, but 1 on 1 is still great to have for sure.

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    20 days ago

    All the purist here would rather use matrix to send messages to themselves…

    Signal is an amazing alternative to WhatsApp and one of the few apps you can actually get non-techies to install. If it’s not for you then don’t use but don’t say stupid shit like “why would anyone use it? it’s not perfect!”.