Homeschooling isn’t for everyone but it should be an option. Even self study should be an option, I learned plenty on my own and going to classes was a waste my time. I’ll write this, there’s stuff that’s great in person but then there’s the why am I here classes. I moved a lot so the socialization aspect was developed differently for me so it’s not like that held any value.
I’m very critical of the education system because I worked in education. When you’re young, people have a lot more motivation to learn but it’s hindered by a snail paced cookie cutter education program.
Schools are a very important institutions for more than just teaching algebra and grammar. It brings kids together with other kids forming their social environment, challenges them with different views and ideas than their parents’ and so much more. While that didn’t work out for you personally, most children don’t move a lot so they have a real opportunity for socialization. Addionally it’s an important layer of child protection: at school teachers and other guardians have a great opportunity to spot signs of child abuse.
I do think though that hybrid models with partly homeschooling, partly regular schooling could be a viable option, especially for older students.
I get you have good intent with your post and my response isn’t directed at you, just clarifying that reality is much different.
“It brings kids together with other kids forming their social environment, challenges them with different views and ideas than their parents’ and so much more.”
Because one student making “r’etard” noises at my IEP student totally brought them together, they were all laughing well except my student shut down. Even the main class teacher in the class didn’t want to get in on doing anything about it. The behavioral specialist and I grilled that kid on what he did. Or another student came to me for help because another student touched her in her private place. She totally got to learn that other students have different views and ideas. It’s also important to experience being bullied for things out of you control as well; it just helps you learn the world has different views.
Or how about when I went to school and my friend was told vinegar–with a drawn out pronunciation–to his face and no one did anything, sure helped him out. Or when another friend had -a* racial slur referring to Asian people*- keyed on her car, she experienced the different views and ideas that other people have.
“While that didn’t work out for you personally, most children don’t move a lot so they have a real opportunity for socialization.”
The paradox of that is it was the opposite, I became very good at making friends and socializing. I have friends in many state and many other countries. Most students didn’t care to socialize much when I was working in education, it was tablet or computer time after 3/4 grade.
“Additionally it’s an important layer of child protection”
I did file my fair share of CPS reports.
But sadly, it could be the opposite and it happens more often than the news shows; odds are anyone that ends up on the news was the result of a failed blackmail attempt. Sex with teachers happens way more than you think, voluntary or not. Anecdotally, I had a student that added me on bookface the day of her graduation. I nope’d out of that so fast.
Then take in the other examples I made, an there’s a whole lot more. Like it or not, by High School or earlier, school was all about sex, drugs, alcohol, or worse. I mean, now they have vapes but when I went to school people would smoke in bathrooms, trip on acid in class, even do dip in class… in front of the teacher. I went to a very posh school in the most expensive area of the state; everyone had a car. I had three, a Volvo for winter, the Mercedes that was my first car, and a Jaguar to change things up. The school had a cocaine problem not a cheap drug problem. That’s what happens when you go to a rich kids school.
Don’t even get me started on my little sister’s time in school. And I phrase it that way akin to spending time in prison.
I think what you say sounds good on paper and I’d like to believe it.
And as a bonus, odds are pretty much every teacher drinks after school; it was the easiest conversation starter in the teachers lounge. I tried my attempt to make a change and threw in the towel on this so called dumpster fire of an education system we have. It’s like do they put up a gated fence to protect the children or keep in the inmates?
or… do both? You can homeschool/self-study till you’re blue in the face, but you won’t get the socializing nor the exposure; there’s tons you’d “ignore”/“neglect” by yourself or homeschooled.
Homeschool is for morons who think “liberal education” is a tool of the devil or some bullshit, and yes, some are racist and “how dare my kid learn with that cripple or child of color.”
I went to school and hated every minute of it; this wasn’t summer fun of hanging out with friends on your street. I made sure to go to school the least amount possible. I would take all the sick days. When I was 16, I did part of the day in vocational school… for multi-media, as in photoshop, video editing, etc. That was great because I already knew everything going into the program so I played super smash brothers on an emulator after getting the assignments done. So that also cut down the amount of classes to 3 classes a day at high school, which was great.
School was fun for woodworking, metal working, home-ec, and engine class; the rest of it I would sleep through. Socializing in school was negligible, if you’re always told to be quiet and you maybe socialize during lunch and brief moments, what’s the point? Getting sick because someone brought in the latest strain? I had more fun socializing on a 40 man raid playing wow.
Homeschool is for morons who think “liberal education” is a tool of the devil or some bullshit, and yes, some are racist and “how dare my kid learn with that cripple or child of color.”
I don’t think that way, I think school is just garbage and a waste of time. Really I should have done the early college program combined with the vocational school so I would have made better use of my time.
Like I mentioned, before in other posts that the education system needs an overhaul and everyone should have individualized education programs. Once you work in a school, you understand how useless it really has become; kids today do not get the same education I did.
The only reason I got up to go to school was to watch Pokemon and Digimon while drinking my green tea. Then, think how stupid it is for me to be up this early only to go sleep in class. Oh yeah, I had a A average for pretty much all my classes cause I was bribed getting a skateboard for getting straight A’s. Some schools I went to growing up, it was daycare with a good lunch if you had money–as in one school had slushies, German pretzels with cheese, burgers, fries, pizza, ice cream, the menu of the day, etc. It was like going to a buffet.
I can say that school isn’t for everyone in the same manner as homeschool isn’t for everyone either.
Eh, as someone who was homeschooled, there are some legitimate reasons and legitimate ways to approach homeschooling.
I do think regulations regarding homeschooling need to be far more stringent across the board to ensure that all children are receiving a decent education and that they are being properly socialized.
Homeschooling isn’t for everyone but it should be an option. Even self study should be an option, I learned plenty on my own and going to classes was a waste my time. I’ll write this, there’s stuff that’s great in person but then there’s the why am I here classes. I moved a lot so the socialization aspect was developed differently for me so it’s not like that held any value.
I’m very critical of the education system because I worked in education. When you’re young, people have a lot more motivation to learn but it’s hindered by a snail paced cookie cutter education program.
Schools are a very important institutions for more than just teaching algebra and grammar. It brings kids together with other kids forming their social environment, challenges them with different views and ideas than their parents’ and so much more. While that didn’t work out for you personally, most children don’t move a lot so they have a real opportunity for socialization. Addionally it’s an important layer of child protection: at school teachers and other guardians have a great opportunity to spot signs of child abuse.
I do think though that hybrid models with partly homeschooling, partly regular schooling could be a viable option, especially for older students.
I get you have good intent with your post and my response isn’t directed at you, just clarifying that reality is much different.
“It brings kids together with other kids forming their social environment, challenges them with different views and ideas than their parents’ and so much more.”
Because one student making “r’etard” noises at my IEP student totally brought them together, they were all laughing well except my student shut down. Even the main class teacher in the class didn’t want to get in on doing anything about it. The behavioral specialist and I grilled that kid on what he did. Or another student came to me for help because another student touched her in her private place. She totally got to learn that other students have different views and ideas. It’s also important to experience being bullied for things out of you control as well; it just helps you learn the world has different views.
Or how about when I went to school and my friend was told vinegar–with a drawn out pronunciation–to his face and no one did anything, sure helped him out. Or when another friend had -a* racial slur referring to Asian people*- keyed on her car, she experienced the different views and ideas that other people have.
“While that didn’t work out for you personally, most children don’t move a lot so they have a real opportunity for socialization.”
The paradox of that is it was the opposite, I became very good at making friends and socializing. I have friends in many state and many other countries. Most students didn’t care to socialize much when I was working in education, it was tablet or computer time after 3/4 grade.
“Additionally it’s an important layer of child protection”
I did file my fair share of CPS reports.
But sadly, it could be the opposite and it happens more often than the news shows; odds are anyone that ends up on the news was the result of a failed blackmail attempt. Sex with teachers happens way more than you think, voluntary or not. Anecdotally, I had a student that added me on bookface the day of her graduation. I nope’d out of that so fast.
Then take in the other examples I made, an there’s a whole lot more. Like it or not, by High School or earlier, school was all about sex, drugs, alcohol, or worse. I mean, now they have vapes but when I went to school people would smoke in bathrooms, trip on acid in class, even do dip in class… in front of the teacher. I went to a very posh school in the most expensive area of the state; everyone had a car. I had three, a Volvo for winter, the Mercedes that was my first car, and a Jaguar to change things up. The school had a cocaine problem not a cheap drug problem. That’s what happens when you go to a rich kids school.
Don’t even get me started on my little sister’s time in school. And I phrase it that way akin to spending time in prison.
I think what you say sounds good on paper and I’d like to believe it.
And as a bonus, odds are pretty much every teacher drinks after school; it was the easiest conversation starter in the teachers lounge. I tried my attempt to make a change and threw in the towel on this so called dumpster fire of an education system we have. It’s like do they put up a gated fence to protect the children or keep in the inmates?
or… do both? You can homeschool/self-study till you’re blue in the face, but you won’t get the socializing nor the exposure; there’s tons you’d “ignore”/“neglect” by yourself or homeschooled.
Homeschool is for morons who think “liberal education” is a tool of the devil or some bullshit, and yes, some are racist and “how dare my kid learn with that cripple or child of color.”
I went to school and hated every minute of it; this wasn’t summer fun of hanging out with friends on your street. I made sure to go to school the least amount possible. I would take all the sick days. When I was 16, I did part of the day in vocational school… for multi-media, as in photoshop, video editing, etc. That was great because I already knew everything going into the program so I played super smash brothers on an emulator after getting the assignments done. So that also cut down the amount of classes to 3 classes a day at high school, which was great.
School was fun for woodworking, metal working, home-ec, and engine class; the rest of it I would sleep through. Socializing in school was negligible, if you’re always told to be quiet and you maybe socialize during lunch and brief moments, what’s the point? Getting sick because someone brought in the latest strain? I had more fun socializing on a 40 man raid playing wow.
Homeschool is for morons who think “liberal education” is a tool of the devil or some bullshit, and yes, some are racist and “how dare my kid learn with that cripple or child of color.”
I don’t think that way, I think school is just garbage and a waste of time. Really I should have done the early college program combined with the vocational school so I would have made better use of my time.
Like I mentioned, before in other posts that the education system needs an overhaul and everyone should have individualized education programs. Once you work in a school, you understand how useless it really has become; kids today do not get the same education I did.
The only reason I got up to go to school was to watch Pokemon and Digimon while drinking my green tea. Then, think how stupid it is for me to be up this early only to go sleep in class. Oh yeah, I had a A average for pretty much all my classes cause I was bribed getting a skateboard for getting straight A’s. Some schools I went to growing up, it was daycare with a good lunch if you had money–as in one school had slushies, German pretzels with cheese, burgers, fries, pizza, ice cream, the menu of the day, etc. It was like going to a buffet.
I can say that school isn’t for everyone in the same manner as homeschool isn’t for everyone either.
Eh, as someone who was homeschooled, there are some legitimate reasons and legitimate ways to approach homeschooling.
I do think regulations regarding homeschooling need to be far more stringent across the board to ensure that all children are receiving a decent education and that they are being properly socialized.