Talk grows that China is routing US Treasury holdings through Canada: Bloomberg
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Canada’s reported holdings of US debt have surged to nearly $600bn despite a tariff war, and some investors suspect China is behind it, moving Treasuries to…

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China’s Treasury holdings may not be shrinking at all, just changing address, and the clue is a $600 billion pile with Canada’s name on it.

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According to the report, DoubleLine’s Vitaliy Liberman noticed that Canada’s stockpile of US debt securities had grown aggressively to nearly $600 billion of Treasuries and bonds, despite a tit-for-tat tariff war between the two countries. Liberman was told that the increase was in fact due to China, which has been moving US securities to custodian banks outside the United States.

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China’s reported ownership of US Treasuries has fallen. Some investors and analysts believe that decline reflects China shifting its holdings to accounts in other countries, rather than actually reducing them, in order to give the appearance of decoupling from the United States. [The claims are unconfirmed.]

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The question matters because China has historically been one of the biggest foreign buyers of US government debt. A genuine Chinese retreat would remove an important source of demand for Treasuries at a time of heavy US borrowing, while hidden holdings would suggest that demand is more stable than the headline numbers imply. The appearance of decoupling would also carry political weight amid trade tensions.

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As an addition, official numbers by the U.S. Treasury show that largest foreign holders of U.S. treasury securities are Japan and UK, holding 1.1 and 1.0 trillion dollars, respectively. China is the third-largest holder (618 billion dollars) as of July 2026.

Canada is among the largest holders, too, counting for 426 billion dollars as per July this years. According to the linked report, this number has now increase to roughly 600 billion dollars, despite a ‘tariff war’ between Canada and the U.S.

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  • Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    Haha look, it’s easy to do a quick Google search about “times that China sold US debt”, but you’re still proving my point because you’re out of your depth and don’t understand what you’re sharing.

    From your own quote (with my emphasis):

    Officials [from the National Financial Regulatory Administration which is a national advisory body to protect consumers] urged banks (private banks) to limit purchases of U.S. government bonds and instructed those (private individuals) with high exposure to pare down positions, though the advisory does not apply to state holdings (so not Chinese Government holdings), Bloomberg reported.

    Yes, anyone can buy bonds. Private enterprises, individuals, governments. You’ve lumped them all in together because “China”, while the article you’ve posted talks about the Chinese government (that’s pretty racist if you didn’t know).

    Here is a Canadian financial institution providing a similar advisory about US bonds trustworthiness. This is something that is happening globally btw - Denmark pensions, amongst others in EU, sold their US bonds (and these are actual government entities).

    https://www.cibc.com/en/gam/insights/markets-and-economy/us-canadian-bond-markets.html

    Then you use, by your own admission, a propaganda outlet that mentions the following:

    China cut its holdings of US Treasuries to an 18-year low in July, as overall holdings by foreign countries fell for a second consecutive month amid deepening worries over the sustainability of American government debt.

    Now a few things here

    1. you’re contradicting yourself. The article you originally posted says that quite the opposite is happening in relation to what China says (that China is actually buying bonds, but with a different address), but now you’re referencing a “propaganda outlet” that China has been selling bonds. So what is it?

    2. let’s go with if China is selling the bonds - yes, selling bonds off slowly over several years (maintaining bond prices) is a very big difference to dumping (making prices plummet). So not sure what you’re trying to disprove with sharing that.

    Here is my original premise for reference:

    Not once has China dumped US debt as a retaliatory measure, or even threatened to do so, because that would negatively effect the value of those holdings.

    • Scotty@scribe.disroot.orgOP
      1·
      2 days ago

      It is useless to pick a few sentences out of reports and then re-interpret them to make them fit for your desired narrative.

      This is rubbish. Chinese state-media has been spreading reports of reduced US debt holdings. I provided even one link (that you have ignored).

      Here is my original premise for reference …

      What kind of satire is this?

      Such a discussion is waste of time.

      • Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca
        1·
        2 days ago

        It is useless to pick a few sentences out of reports and then re-interpret them to make them fit for your desired narrative.

        It’s the same sentence you quoted and I added some explainers because apparently it’s necessary.

        If you could tell me, in your own words, why the news that you originally shared is important and why we should pay attention, then I’ll concede. But I doubt you can because racism isn’t logical, which is why you’re having a hard time coming up with any argument.

        I only hope you take a good hard look in the mirror and ask yourself some tough questions.

        • Scotty@scribe.disroot.orgOP
          1·
          2 days ago

          I already provided the evidence, you’ll see it also in the numbers. But tankies doing tankie things, including, unfortunately, the permanent insults. I end this discussion.