I was originally going to ask how many legal genders there should be, but I fail to see a compelling argument against 0.

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      If you were looking to ID someone in a crowd, then skin color/heritage (I hate the word ‘race’) would be an important one, yet that isnt listed on a licence, but is shown in the picture.

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              Trust me, I do get your point, but the reason we don’t have race on our ID’s is because its arbitrary. Black Irish exist for example.

              So why would my skin color be listed on my ID if my picture is there?

              Anyone who is cross referencing the picture could simply just say what the skin color or ethnicity is.

              In any case, I think your argument is moot. If police are trying to identify someone in a crowd, why would having their gender on their licence help?

              If police know who they’re looking for, they will look up the person on their computer, and could see gender there. That doesn’t mean it needs to be on a licence.

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                  Race is certainly not arbitrary, as your previous comment proved and common sense would substantiate.

                  Which part of my comment proved race is not arbitrary?

                  Black Irish?

                  Do you expect my drivers licence to list “black Irish” as a race?


                  If you want to look at specifically why gender could be useful information in this one example, you can simply envision someone with a beard who identifies as female. The fact that their gender is female could inform an officer what they’d be wearing, where implying looking at the picture would guide the officer to assume the opposite.

                  I’m not sure why you’re looking at edge cases and making sweeping statements on effectiveness based on those examples.

                  This example is so extreme.

                  Even in this example I still dont understand why gender needs to be on the licence

                  If police know they’re looking for a trans woman, why would having the gender on the licence help?