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  • Google didn’t develop RCS, GSMA did. All google did was purchase the startup that actually developed a good implementation of it.

    This isnt some gatekeeping exercise from google, they had nothing to do with RCS’s initial design and release. The carriers are entirely to blame for dragging their feet, although some are finally implementing their own servers (China is entirely RCS without google).

    As for “federate it, decentralise it”, thats how it already is. Its called “hubbing”, but its basically federation. The networks run their server, and the federate messages between them. It isn’t centralised at all.



  • Thats not a difference. Other clean room projects, for example ReactOS, have source projects that are incompatibly licenced. Its the entire point of clean room reversing, to bypass copyright and licencing.

    The training data is on the dirty room side, it doesnt get passed to the clean side.

    The clean room concept is violated if raw source code is in the model generated, but to my knowledge its not. There is no way to pull out a chunk of the model, and say “This is a direct copy of main.c from xyz project”. At best, you can ask the LLM to guess what it should be, and it’ll regurgitate something statistically close. I just tried asking my local qwen3.8, and did produce a close summary of the nginx main file, but it wasn’t even close to a 1 to 1 copy.

    The clean room would also be violated if you consider the training, model and inference as a singular entity, but that would be tough to argue when the inference can happen on one server, the resulting model isn’t functional in any way, its a big box of data, and the inference can happen on any GPU anywhere else in the world.