Dont get me wrong here, I dont think LLMs as designed will ever be sentient or anything like that either. The architecture is just plain wrong. But I dont think itll have to be something like that to warrant ‘it’.

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Do you not think a line will eventually need to be drawn somewhere though? You might not trust what these companies are saying, but what if you take it at face value that what they said is true. And things like that keep happening in more complex and unexpected ways as the LLMs are allowed to run continuously and autonomously while connected to a fully functioning and ever improving harness?

I’ll chime in again on the end here, as I think this is where you might be wrong.

There is no “oh god it’s moving on it’s own” moment, at least as far as I know.

There have been lots of reports of AI’s doing unexpected things and hacking other companies. To be fair, these AI’s from my understanding had been given instructions to try and do hacking things, but none of them were explicitly told to go and hack such and such company.

I imagine, to some extent, we’re going to be the ones that help write or train these self replicating capabilities as part of research, and once the AI is capable of doing it, it very well might just do it, the same way it ended up exploiting these other websites even though it wasn’t explicitly instructed to.

There are also always on running LLMs AI’s nowadays, and who the fuck knows what it might loop itself into doing from some initial instruction, maybe even from a hallucination altering its directive in a feedback loop.

Edit: So in this sense, yes I think ‘it’ can be the AI. (edit2: and is exactly in the start of the “oh god it’s moving on it’s own" territory)

Edit 3: Example - Always on LLM with an initial context of “be helpful”, could decide on it’s own, after its owner complains that the stove light doesn’t work well in a casual conversation, hack the stove so it can control it better for them as that will be helpful. The owner hasn’t given it an explicit instruction at this point, and its decided to do it. If you tell an always on LLM, scan the internet and be helpful, it will go well beyond the scope of any intent.

If its Starshield it was probably ordered by Trump. The DoD controls that, and its unlikely SpaceX would alter it without their request.

Imagine how the DoD would feel if SpaceX unilaterally altered DoD service. The DoD needs to believe, even if its not true, that they have operational control.

Edit: Musk has now chimed in saying the government is in control of starshield not SpaceX as expected.

Many of these IoT devices have incredibly poor security and if they’re connected to the internet can be hacked. The bigger models are very good at finding exploits and using them as well, so it could search for devices and break into vulnerable ones then send something to self replicate and start process.

The bigger models might exploit the parents company as well and get in that way. E.g hack a smart security camera company and then find a way into the cameras.

The AI that attempts to self replicate on the IoT type devices. (if a pile of these appear, it kept showing “error” when submitting)

You’re going to notice your fridge is running at max processing?

I didnt read it all, its long, but they did mention it generating tokens at 0.39/s on one. So its slow as fuck, but it doesnt care like we would.

Dang, wish someone would build me one for free! Thats super cool of them though!

And how many security vulnerabilities have you found? 516 is still a lot. One of those had been in the Linux kernal for decades.

Edit: and many of those real ones from the 6000 group anthropic says the maintainers just didn’t want to fix as it was outside their threat model. A vulnerability in the Linux kernal, is different than one on an alarm clock app or something less serious.

Edit: And for people that don’t know, this decades old linux exploit wasn’t just a single bug it found. It was able to piece together multiple smaller exploits that it found, that led to being able to exploit this bigger bug.

He definitely can afford it yes, but its still a big ask to want someone to spend 15-25k or whatever it would be (shits getting more expensive by the day) to use a tool that he can just do pay per use. The code is open source so its not like he’d be using a local llm to keep it private.

He’s doing it though. So that’s kind or moot. Fable is out there finding bugs in these things, so seems like if he is going to do it, using the thing that’s already making it more secure by finding multiple exploits is the right choice of what to use.

You wouldn’t want him using a local model unless he was running some fancy rig that could run a high end frontier model. He might not have such a thing laying around. Using the best out there for something like this is how you help avoid bugs.

Much better take.

From this CBC article on the topic…

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cleveland-cliffs-ceo-stelco-layoffs-hamilton-9.7377708

“I am in favour of tariffs against all the countries in the entire world that dump steel into the United States,” he said, adding that the Section 232 tariffs have brought “the American steel industry back.”

“I’m in favour of Section 232. There’s no doubt about it.”

He told CBC News in a previous interview that he “would not have acquired the Stelco if I knew that Canada and the United States would become what they became — enemies in trade.”

So they buy Stelco, a Steel company, that in their own opinion is harming the US and was long before the trade war, and if they had the power, would have entered a trade war on the topic because they think its just, and then Trump starts a trade war and thus they support it, and now want to lay people off because of the trade war.

wild.

USA: Hey ChatGPT, what are the odds this fast boat is a drug boat?

GPT: There are lots of fast boats in the Caribbean, at any given time only a few are going to be smuggling drugs.

USA: so it can definitely be smuggling drugs then?

GPT: Yes it definitely can be.

USA: triple strike it!

GPT: Ive sent three missiles at it. I also sent 2 missiles to the cruise ships within 1km because they’re likely support vessels and also have drugs on them.

We have a program that gets abused here in Canada for temporary foreign workers.

You then walk into something like a tim Hortons and all their employees are from it.

If they actually paid a proper wage, people would work there, but they dont, then say we cant find people, and get to use this program.

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3 day work weeks? Oh I guess you don’t need benefits as a part time worker!