Perhaps how I said it wasn’t clear. When I said playing an instrument through college, I meant getting lessons and playing with official school and college bands. I had lots of education. I understand logically how to do the things. But I was unable. It takes more than education to be an artist.
Making something, regardless of skill level or whether you achieve what idea you had in making it, is what makes an artist. A poor artist or one that’s not the best ever is still a valid artist, right? Then that should apply to you as well.
Hm, I suppose it is a question on semantics then. In the context of the original post, there is art I would like to create, but cannot, and if AI could help me achieve what I envision, that wouldn’t be a bad thing. So I suppose I could ohrase it as, not everyone can be the artist they want to be.
In my case, sure, I could compose some music technically. But the massive gap from what is in my head and what would come out would be so frustrating I would not enjoy the hobby. And that is why I don’t do it. So if AI could make it so I would be willing to do it, that would be a good thing.
That would be a good thing? You don’t want a challenge or to grow? Develop a skill? You don’t get a sense of accomplishment if you just have a computer steal other people’s effort for you.
What? I want the computer to help me make the art I have in my head. How is that stealing? I want to say more crescendo, or make the low line lower. Or have me hum something and it write it. Then combine it with something else I hummed.
And I have plenty of areas to be challenged, and to develop. But only 24 hours in a day. I can’t be an expert in everything. But that doesn’t mean I couldn’t enjoy a greater variety of things if I had help.
Same way other artist learn how to make art. By looking at other artists works and using them for inspiration. But I already said that. You just ignored it because you thought your reply was a mic drop. It’s not.
A person can take one of those predrawn things on a peice of paper. Then fill it in with colors of their own choice. Another person starting from the same peice of paper can do the same. Odds are they won’t choose the same colors. So each finished product is different. The people didn’t make the outline, but they still made the finished product. And it can still bring them joy. Nothing wrong with that.
Many artists have seen lots of art they didn’t create. Especially those who study art. That is one way to learn. They then take all that knowledge and make their own art.
A person can use AI to just “trace”, but they could also use it to truely create what they see in their mind, which would certainly be making something.
Tracing can bring people joy, but, it’s not the same. You’re cheating yourself out of an experience. You’ll never be as proud of anything your AI agent makes as a real artist will be proud of their own work, because you didn’t make it.
Or, to put it another way: you ordered a sandwich at Subway. You told the worker just how you like it, picked all the toppings, etc. Eating the sandwich might bring you joy, even! But, did you make a sandwich? Obviously not.
If you had the education, you’d know how to do all the things you say you want to do.
Perhaps how I said it wasn’t clear. When I said playing an instrument through college, I meant getting lessons and playing with official school and college bands. I had lots of education. I understand logically how to do the things. But I was unable. It takes more than education to be an artist.
I genuinely disagree.
Making something, regardless of skill level or whether you achieve what idea you had in making it, is what makes an artist. A poor artist or one that’s not the best ever is still a valid artist, right? Then that should apply to you as well.
Hm, I suppose it is a question on semantics then. In the context of the original post, there is art I would like to create, but cannot, and if AI could help me achieve what I envision, that wouldn’t be a bad thing. So I suppose I could ohrase it as, not everyone can be the artist they want to be. In my case, sure, I could compose some music technically. But the massive gap from what is in my head and what would come out would be so frustrating I would not enjoy the hobby. And that is why I don’t do it. So if AI could make it so I would be willing to do it, that would be a good thing.
That would be a good thing? You don’t want a challenge or to grow? Develop a skill? You don’t get a sense of accomplishment if you just have a computer steal other people’s effort for you.
What? I want the computer to help me make the art I have in my head. How is that stealing? I want to say more crescendo, or make the low line lower. Or have me hum something and it write it. Then combine it with something else I hummed.
And I have plenty of areas to be challenged, and to develop. But only 24 hours in a day. I can’t be an expert in everything. But that doesn’t mean I couldn’t enjoy a greater variety of things if I had help.
And where do computers take the pictures they mash together for your convenience?
Same way other artist learn how to make art. By looking at other artists works and using them for inspiration. But I already said that. You just ignored it because you thought your reply was a mic drop. It’s not.
Funnily enough that’s not how that actually works with AI. The two are not the same.
You aren’t making anything. You’re tracing.
A person can take one of those predrawn things on a peice of paper. Then fill it in with colors of their own choice. Another person starting from the same peice of paper can do the same. Odds are they won’t choose the same colors. So each finished product is different. The people didn’t make the outline, but they still made the finished product. And it can still bring them joy. Nothing wrong with that. Many artists have seen lots of art they didn’t create. Especially those who study art. That is one way to learn. They then take all that knowledge and make their own art.
A person can use AI to just “trace”, but they could also use it to truely create what they see in their mind, which would certainly be making something.
Tracing can bring people joy, but, it’s not the same. You’re cheating yourself out of an experience. You’ll never be as proud of anything your AI agent makes as a real artist will be proud of their own work, because you didn’t make it.
Or, to put it another way: you ordered a sandwich at Subway. You told the worker just how you like it, picked all the toppings, etc. Eating the sandwich might bring you joy, even! But, did you make a sandwich? Obviously not.