Researchers, industry leaders urge Ottawa to develop rules to protect consumers as Canada opens its market to Chinese EVs

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      20 days ago

      It is, all of them are collecting and selling all of our data. The article I read said every car company they investigated and it was a lot.

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      20 days ago

      China have a well established plan to perform cyber-espionage and foreign interference. They have no qualms about it

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            19 days ago

            Fuck yes I can, and its pathetically naive to think they aren’t.

            Also linking to us gov website, may as well link to a trump video.

            To be clear I’m not saying the Chinese govt doesn’t do these things, I’m saying they are all doing it.

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                18 days ago

                Corruption is a little distinct from survalence. I think its pretty ignorant to think that big countries dont have large survalence bodies. That is the crux of my point: this article says “oh no Chinese cars”, ignoring that we’ve left this door wide open.

                Meanwhile it seems like you want to claim the us is either not doing this or doing it to a lesser degree., and you use a us government website as your proof. Why would you think that’s convincing?

                Just like on reddit you can use swear words here. You dont need to play cool police with your 14 say old account

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    Another hit piece on the only affordable cars just because it’s from sCaRy cHiNa.

    Meanwhile North American cars already track everything you do and sell it to your insurance company and anyone else willing to buy that data. No bad mouthing of the expensive domestic spy machines though.

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        17 days ago

        You need to learn Xi Jinping Thought. Luckily your car will educate you about how Tibetans and Uighurs are all just Han after all. Celebrate unity with us. You will become one with us.

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          Ha thank you comrade for that kind clarification. On reflection, I may have mis-spoke. After all, we are all Han in a sense. Even the sparrow should assimilate to the new normal.

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      19 days ago

      The cheapest cars ‘Made in China’ following Carney’s deal is Tesla. It comes at around 41k. The cheapest Chinese brands in Canada have a price tag of 120k. It’s a high price for Canadians, but the Chinese workers who work in a 996 working culture and the victims of forced labour are paying a much higher price.

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      20 days ago

      So do American cars. What else is new?

      I don’t like it regardless of where the car company is from.

      It’s my car. You don’t get to use it to snoop on me. I don’t care which country the snoops are in.

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      The US has to come up with court orders and warrants to get data from third parties like GM or Ford, and those companies are not compelled to collect any particular dataset. Every Chinese business is, by default, required to both capture all data and share it with the Chinese government, and they are required not to disclose that they were collecting and sharing that data.

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        So? I the US the data is sent to third parties with your géo-localisation data and driving data, along with other personal info. Third parties like insurance companies, marketing companies, AI, etc. It’s like your car is essentially Meta

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          Exactly, gov’t access isn’t nearly the main problem as a lot of our lives are controlled by private corporations. Besides, the gov’t can buy access to this data from data broker firms.

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            @avidamoeba@lemmy.ca

            gov’t access isn’t nearly the main problem …

            It definitely is a main problem, at least in democratic countries. Spying on citizens without reason violates the constitution.

            But China isn’t a democracy but rather a dictatorship. That makes the situation even worse, and privacy isn’t by far the only violation of human rights committed by the government in Beijing as we know.

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              People literally telling you in this thread why for them it isn’t. You can ignore them all u want and tell them they’re wrong. Won’t change a thing as that doesn’t stop their car insurance company making their lives more expensive using data collected from American cars.

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                  19 days ago

                  Re-read the thread including your own comment. If that doesn’t help. I can’t help you. There are courses in English.

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      Made in Canada*

      North American just means American, and those need to be banned from our roads for how much spying they do.