This reeks of “leftists have criticisms of liberal’s positions, so therefore they must like conservatives and so they’re also actual Nazis too” team sports mentality
Crazy how liberals will always point to their political partners (conservatives) as the cause of all society’s ills yet are incapable of materially unwinding those ills: and if anyone amongst their ranks makes a sincere demand to unpick these structures they leave no stone unturned to politically assassinate them.
The right is exactly who has been begging the liberals for a pipeline, to remove carbon taxes and EV mandates, and who is threatening to break Canada apart in support of fossil fuel combustion.
No, everybody with a brain blames conservatives. It’s just that it literally goes without saying, in the sense that they’re a lost cause and so it isn’t worth discussing.
Leftists talk about liberals because they’re the ones that have the capacity to be persuaded.
Let me put it this way: If someone believes that a person who has voted conservative lacks individual agency then the person making that judgement does not actually hold liberal/leftist values.
I won’t blame the left before I’ll blame conservatives, but those on the left have at least a little bit of blame… All this infighting and finger-pointing and factional divisiveness? How is that helping? It’s exactly what the conservatives want: infighting amongst ourselves rather than focusing on the real problems that the conservatives are causing.
Sure, we didn’t cause the problems, but a bunch of internal bickering sure isn’t going to fix any of them. And we are well past figuring out who is to blame for all of it. It’s time to start working on long lasting solutions.
But I don’t see a lot of that going on. Just a bunch of grievances and more people looking for more people to blame.
You could say that about any political group. Even MAGA is fracturing, as well as Alberta, Canada separatists. The Canadian conservatives have fractured and joined forces again so. Many. Times.
So why blame the left for things literally anywhere?
Also, before you pull out purity tests, whenever someone complains about purity tests, its usually a disgarmeent that human rights belong to everyone. Thats usually what they mean.
So you blamed the left for looking for someone to blame, while blaming that problem only on the left. So how is an example of it happening everywhere whataboutism?
By pointing out that liberals are part of the problem, laying the groundwork for throwing out false solidarity with the elites and building a climate movement based on class solidarity? You cannot solve the problem if you refuse to understand the problem. Seriously, read the article; it’s high-quality stuff.
If you can’t even defend your own position, then why bother arguing it at all?
At this point, you’re just parroting something someone else told you. It doesn’t come off as even the slightest bit sincere— or even that you convincingly understood it in the first place.
It’s so frustrating how left will literally blame themselves before they blame conservatives.
Complete non-sequitur. No leftist absolves conservatives of blame for the climate crisis.
This reeks of “leftists have criticisms of liberal’s positions, so therefore they must like conservatives and so they’re also actual Nazis too” team sports mentality
Or you could just RFTA.
Crazy how liberals will always point to their political partners (conservatives) as the cause of all society’s ills yet are incapable of materially unwinding those ills: and if anyone amongst their ranks makes a sincere demand to unpick these structures they leave no stone unturned to politically assassinate them.
The right is exactly who has been begging the liberals for a pipeline, to remove carbon taxes and EV mandates, and who is threatening to break Canada apart in support of fossil fuel combustion.
Nobody here is blaming the left though…
Only from the perspective that the people you disagree with are called liberals and that they are actually just conservatives
Hey look, it’s the tesseract ui dev that made a hidden censor lists of various human rights activists trying to incite leftest horizontal hostility.
No, everybody with a brain blames conservatives. It’s just that it literally goes without saying, in the sense that they’re a lost cause and so it isn’t worth discussing.
Leftists talk about liberals because they’re the ones that have the capacity to be persuaded.
Let me put it this way: If someone believes that a person who has voted conservative lacks individual agency then the person making that judgement does not actually hold liberal/leftist values.
They are dividing and othering.
I won’t blame the left before I’ll blame conservatives, but those on the left have at least a little bit of blame… All this infighting and finger-pointing and factional divisiveness? How is that helping? It’s exactly what the conservatives want: infighting amongst ourselves rather than focusing on the real problems that the conservatives are causing.
Sure, we didn’t cause the problems, but a bunch of internal bickering sure isn’t going to fix any of them. And we are well past figuring out who is to blame for all of it. It’s time to start working on long lasting solutions.
But I don’t see a lot of that going on. Just a bunch of grievances and more people looking for more people to blame.
You could say that about any political group. Even MAGA is fracturing, as well as Alberta, Canada separatists. The Canadian conservatives have fractured and joined forces again so. Many. Times.
So why blame the left for things literally anywhere?
Also, before you pull out purity tests, whenever someone complains about purity tests, its usually a disgarmeent that human rights belong to everyone. Thats usually what they mean.
I don’t find blame-shifting whataboutisms particularly helpful, either.
way to miss the point
So you blamed the left for looking for someone to blame, while blaming that problem only on the left. So how is an example of it happening everywhere whataboutism?
By pointing out that liberals are part of the problem, laying the groundwork for throwing out false solidarity with the elites and building a climate movement based on class solidarity? You cannot solve the problem if you refuse to understand the problem. Seriously, read the article; it’s high-quality stuff.
How is it false solidarity to acknowledge that the climate crisis affects everybody?
How does dividing up everybody into little groups, how does creating all of this conflict help anybody?
How does it do anything but make you feel better about your own sense of identity?
How is it anything but a bunch of circle jerking?
Because it sure as shit isn’t fixing the climate to tell me how much better you are than everyone else
Maybe… maybe the article has the answers to your questions?
If you can’t even defend your own position, then why bother arguing it at all?
At this point, you’re just parroting something someone else told you. It doesn’t come off as even the slightest bit sincere— or even that you convincingly understood it in the first place.
Reported for bad faith argument/trolling.
Pointing out that your logic is fundamentally flawed, and that you can’t even defend your own argument is “bad faith”?
Isn’t that what Trump does when he hears something he doesn’t like? Blame everyone else?
What side are you on anyway?