• Iunnrais@piefed.social
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    12 days ago

    That only works when people are able to successfully find a comfortable place in the system, then the urge to say “fuck you, got mine” grows more and more, making conservatism increasingly likely. But when the system breaks and multiple entire generations stop getting theirs, FUGM stops being a possible option— you ain’t got any to say got mine about.

    Accumulated lead poisoning over decades also helps contribute to an increase in likelihood of conservatism as a person ages. Perhaps even more substantially than what I said before.

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    12 days ago

    Only if you’ve never known the benefits of positive social experiences.

    I can see people who’ve been hurt by groups, repeatedly, come to believe their safety and welfare lies in more individual power and less group power. I can understand becoming selfish if you’ve experienced the freedom of significant individual power.

    I do not understand how someone can know billions of us exists and that we have to function as groups, suggest individual power, and less group power, is better for the future of everyone.

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      12 days ago

      They’re just selfish pricks, plain and simple. Some people are just born without the same ability to empathize and never work on it or are put in situations to improve their ability.

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    12 days ago

    I remember when my ex-sister-in-law told me this verbatim. I was enraged.

    She’s backed off of that sentiment ten years later now that she’s seen what her votes have gained. But I won’t forget.

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      12 days ago

      Some people do. Also long term constant propaganda machines wear people down. It isn’t hard to find people who pointed out Vietnam was bad but then supported Iraq or such. The number of people who supported the idea of setting up a universal healthcare system when voting for Obamas campaign, then also voted for Trump in 2024 is non zero.

      Thankfully it isn’t everyone, otherwise I think our suicide rates would grow even larger with people realizing they don’t want to live in a world where they don’t give a fuck about anyone but theirself.

  • nature_man [he/they]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    11 days ago

    The reason people assumed this was the case was that statistically the more money or influence you have the more conservative you become, and for most generations you were able to build savings or property or status slowly as you got older. This stopped being true with milenials.

    Somewhat related observation: gen-Z entering the work force right now are highly radical because even while actively working multiple jobs theyre actually losing wealth and are percieved as entirely disposable by employers no matter how long or hard they work.

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      10 days ago

      Gen Z dude who has largely been pushed from the labor market but is lucky enough to have kin willing to support me. I fucken hate corporations so much, just let me work in the back room I’ll get everything done proper your hiring offices vibe check is worthless.

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    11 days ago

    Uh huh. And you old people picking up your social security, index linked pensions, subsidized healthcare are just so anti-socialism.

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    12 days ago

    This is something I was always told, my family members that would say that were all boomers. Which is just another example of how they fucked us.

    Good music and drugs, cheap education, sex in the 70’s along with cheap housing and job security. They voted it all away and said we didn’t deserve it and to pull the bootstraps.

    Can’t wait for that generation to go away.

  • DamoclesDurden@sh.itjust.works
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    I grew up hearing, “a person should be liberal in their youth, otherwise they have no passion; and conservative as an adult, otherwise they have no sense.”

    I’m in my late forties and still think it’s as much bullshit as I thought it was as a teen.

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    I was always told I would become more conservative as I got older.

    Joke’s on them. Actually understanding capitalism and conservatism and how politics are corrupted by money has bodily yeeted me so far left that I am two good shakes away from being an anachro-communist.

    The real irony being that idealized “pure” democracy - fully participatory democracy where the people vote directly on policy, and politicians and most of the political apparatus no longer exists - is essentially political communism. All that remains are bureaucrats whose only job is to implement and coordinate the policies that the people vote for.

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    50s here. I’ve only gotten more to the left than ever. At this rate, I’ll be an anarcho-communist by the mid terms!

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    12 days ago

    As a child I went to this man’s Halloween show at the University of Puget Sound in Tacoma, WA where he was a professor of chemistry. Amazing show! Love seeing this meme.

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    I remember hearing that I’d become more conservative as I got older. 15 year old me thought “sure, communism and anarchism are great IN THEORY but they could never work in the real world!” and 48 year old me thinks “anarchism-syndicalism is the ideal, we just need to smash the state so they don’t crush the movement in its infancy!”

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      11 days ago

      I think it helps that now we’re in the real world and see capitalism not working.

      Inb4 “it’s working perfectly” pedants

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    11 days ago

    You usually become more fiscally conservative though because you have decades of savings, home, car, etc that you’ve worked for.

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      11 days ago

      Sure but like… I want higher taxes to fund transit, school and basic income for everyone.