I’m curious to know why people use systemd-less distributions. Which one would you recommend to someone who wants to stop using systemd?

  • esc@piefed.socialEnglish
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    4 days ago

    How boring.

    Will you ever get to the point where you say clearly why exactly bootctl isn’t a separate utility? No, having dependencies doesn’t make something not a separate utility. And no, communicating with systemd daemon over unix sockets doesn’t as well.

    • BB_C@programming.dev
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      4 days ago

      Good.

      So the tool YOU chose is NOT:

      • standalone at the project level ✅
      • standalone at the repo level ✅
      • standalone at the source level (trivially shown with the libsystemd-shared.so dep without requiring looking further) ✅
      • standalone/fully independent at the runtime level ✅

      This and the sibling sub-thread where I mentioned presets show with actual facts how the systemd forced hegemony actually works, where it’s not just a simple case of “they just have some stand-alone cli tools under their umbrella bro”.

      The project itself wouldn’t try to (clumsily) dispute this either, since it’s at the core of what they consider a selling point; interface unification and deeper integration with the system.

      • esc@piefed.socialEnglish
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        3 days ago

        So, you’ve demonstarted nothing and all your points were refuted. Then you’ve made up a list with checkmarks and proudly proclamed yourself right? 😮‍💨