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  • Good.

    So the tool YOU chose is NOT:

    • standalone at the project level ✅
    • standalone at the repo level ✅
    • standalone at the source level (trivially shown with the libsystemd-shared.so dep without requiring looking further) ✅
    • standalone/fully independent at the runtime level ✅

    This and the sibling sub-thread where I mentioned presets show with actual facts how the systemd forced hegemony actually works, where it’s not just a simple case of “they just have some stand-alone cli tools under their umbrella bro”.

    The project itself wouldn’t try to (clumsily) dispute this either, since it’s at the core of what they consider a selling point; interface unification and deeper integration with the system.






  • Your “separate utilities developed under systemd umbrella” claim was simply false.

    Your attempted retort was even more funny, since many coreutils implementations can actually literally be built into a single binary with many symlinks, with dispatch done based on arg0. It’s even the preferred packaging option.

    There are a lot of interdependencies within those source trees. Nothing is self-contained. So the “itz just monorepo bro” is also false.

    they also overreaching and that’s THE point?

    You literally just listed multiple projects 🤭, where their collective surface is also nowhere close the the systemd forced hegemony. Maybe they should all unite and join the “umbrella”.



  • I’m the type of person who wants more systemd in my computer

    Hear hear. A couple hundred more should do the trick.

    bootctl
    busctl
    coredumpctl
    homectl
    hostnamectl
    importctl
    installkernel -> kernel-install
    journalctl
    kernel-install
    localectl
    loginctl
    machinectl
    mount.ddi -> systemd-dissect
    mount.mstack -> systemd-mstack
    mount.storage -> storagectl
    networkctl
    oomctl
    portablectl
    resolvectl
    run0 -> systemd-run
    storagectl
    systemctl
    systemd-ac-power
    systemd-analyze
    systemd-ask-password
    systemd-cat
    systemd-cgls
    systemd-cgtop
    systemd-confext -> systemd-sysext
    systemd-creds
    systemd-cryptenroll
    systemd-cryptsetup
    systemd-delta
    systemd-detect-virt
    systemd-dissect
    systemd-escape
    systemd-firstboot
    systemd-home-fallback-shell -> homectl
    systemd-hwdb
    systemd-id128
    systemd-inhibit
    systemd-machine-id-setup
    systemd-mount
    systemd-mstack
    systemd-mute-console
    systemd-notify
    systemd-nspawn
    systemd-path
    systemd-pty-forward
    systemd-repart
    systemd-resolve -> resolvectl
    systemd-run
    systemd-socket-activate
    systemd-stdio-bridge
    systemd-sysext
    systemd-sysinstall
    systemd-sysusers
    systemd-tmpfiles
    systemd-tty-ask-password-agent
    systemd-umount -> systemd-mount
    systemd-vmspawn
    systemd-vpick
    timedatectl
    udevadm
    updatectl
    userdbctl
    varlinkctl