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Still a bit alpha, but looks promising. Several features seem to be waiting for atproto implementation.
I wonder how much of it is vibe coded and when will it lose updates after being released…
It has a single committer and there are two commits with Claude as co-author, so I would suggest it’s probably about as you’d expect.
Commenting to follow this post because my bookmarked posts on Lemmy are out of control.
HEY HEY HEY, don’t get me wrong now but I’m seeing dozens of Discord-like apps over the past year and can’t understand one thing about them, which is WE ALREADY HAVE THE CHAT PART SINCE FUCKING 1988, it’s called IRC, it’s lightweight, not bloated, works everywhere, extendible and still maintained.
Discord (and Slack) are proprietary IRC forks themselves and adds almost NOTHING to that equation.
It’s the voice/video call part that Discord solved an none of these forks attempting to tackle that part.
Stoat and Fluxer already have voice/video solved just like Discord.
I wouldn’t call it a “solved” problem… I don’t use Fluxer but from what I read in online discussions it’s something that’s currently a pain point since they’re currently trying to overhaul the system
AT Proto is a terrible base for a chat app. There’s a reason Bluesky’s DMs aren’t stored in your PDS. Hell, even your bookmarks (which are stored in your PDS) are off protocol.
Colibri to my knowledge is basically doing public chats until private spaces are in a better spot then doing private spaces for private groups.
Roomy.space is another one of these who built their own private spaces on atproto and would be worth checking out.
Also Atproto isn’t inherently a bad place for this since it can be a hybrid system of on or off protocol, or using their upcoming permissioned data spaces for private data.
Is matrix too difficult to develop or contribute to? Why do new chat apps keep popping up that do the same?
I haven’t tried it, but seems to be difficult enough that practically everyone uses the SDK. And also, before the SDK existed, practically nobody was successful in doing it.
The hardest bit is encryption, you can get a basic app or bot running trivially from scratch if you don’t care about that. People successfully wrote matrix apps for years before the Rust SDK existed, and there are plenty of other bits of the matrix ecosystem that don’t use it (mautrix/Beeper is mostly written in go!). The Rust SDK is nice to use and give a bunch of bonus features on top, so that’s why it’s popular.
There is already a chat system based on ActivityPub: https://shoot.pub/
OK, but why not matrix?
Matrix is where people who don’t want to talk to anyone go.
or furthermore, as an example, why not XMPP/Jabber?
maybe a good reason but definitely the first questions I had.






