They can do that. But it would also be difficult for the Navy to provide logistical support for its operations if the entire region, plus Europe, decided to shut down the U.S. bases. It would be possible, of course, but it would involve significantly more effort and cost… After all, the ability to supply troops around the globe is precisely the reason for the U.S. bases all over the world, if I understand correctly.
You make a good point, but all these countries would have to agree. It would be simpler for Europe, China, and Russia to get together and negotiate with Iran. They have the power to implement any agreement even if the US rejects it.
That’s why I said Europe, China, and Russia should get together and negotiate with Iran. They have the power to implement any deal even if the US rejects it.
Can you think of any deal those 3 could make that would be beneficial to all 3 parties over the current status quo? You can ignore political feasibility
I certainly cannot, and in most situations political feasibility is the largest impediment
I think a big obstacle is Trumping wanting Iran to give its enriched uranium to the US for storage. Europe, China, and Russia would be open to it being stored in their countries or Pakistan. Iran trusts these 3 countries more. Also, China and Russia are allies of Iran and can pressure it into an agreement.
None of them would be interested in being so “hands-on” in Persian gulf. Maybe the new Pakistan Saudi Turkey alliance could step in but its hard to make a case for them to work against US actions.
Are Russia and China willing to risk the Iranian regime collapsing and being replaced by a pro-US government? Does Europe want Trump to help Putin because he wants Russian diesel oil?
Russia and China are smart enough to know that a pro US government in Iran is impossible. Europe defending against US aggression will be, again, impossible.
I don’t think the US and Israel agree. I believe they attacked Iran because they thought the people would rebel and a regime favorable to the US would be installed. Trump still hopes that the blockade will lead to the collapse of the Iranian regime. Europe with China and Russia can implement an agreement with Iran.
From their countries, but the US Navy can continue its blockade and bomb Iran.
They can do that. But it would also be difficult for the Navy to provide logistical support for its operations if the entire region, plus Europe, decided to shut down the U.S. bases. It would be possible, of course, but it would involve significantly more effort and cost… After all, the ability to supply troops around the globe is precisely the reason for the U.S. bases all over the world, if I understand correctly.
You make a good point, but all these countries would have to agree. It would be simpler for Europe, China, and Russia to get together and negotiate with Iran. They have the power to implement any agreement even if the US rejects it.
Yes, I suppose that’s true. This would have to be dressed as a big win for Trump.
That’s why I said Europe, China, and Russia should get together and negotiate with Iran. They have the power to implement any deal even if the US rejects it.
Can you think of any deal those 3 could make that would be beneficial to all 3 parties over the current status quo? You can ignore political feasibility
I certainly cannot, and in most situations political feasibility is the largest impediment
I think a big obstacle is Trumping wanting Iran to give its enriched uranium to the US for storage. Europe, China, and Russia would be open to it being stored in their countries or Pakistan. Iran trusts these 3 countries more. Also, China and Russia are allies of Iran and can pressure it into an agreement.
None of them would be interested in being so “hands-on” in Persian gulf. Maybe the new Pakistan Saudi Turkey alliance could step in but its hard to make a case for them to work against US actions.
Are Russia and China willing to risk the Iranian regime collapsing and being replaced by a pro-US government? Does Europe want Trump to help Putin because he wants Russian diesel oil?
Russia and China are smart enough to know that a pro US government in Iran is impossible. Europe defending against US aggression will be, again, impossible.
I don’t think the US and Israel agree. I believe they attacked Iran because they thought the people would rebel and a regime favorable to the US would be installed. Trump still hopes that the blockade will lead to the collapse of the Iranian regime. Europe with China and Russia can implement an agreement with Iran.