• cybermonkey@piefed.zip
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    Not defending that site at all, but not sure who’s to blame more here, Reddit or the whole AI shitshow?

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      Reddit was already a shell of itself before AI. I stuck around too long because I didn’t quite like Lemmy when I tried during the API exodus. I eventually left when they started forcing logins. By that time I hadn’t realized just how much the community had degraded till I came here.

      It’s like I forgot what online discourse felt like before corporate tentacles strangled reddit. Even the stupid arguments make more sense, and that seems impossible.

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        True. For me, the quality there pretty much degraded around 2015-6 or at least that was when i started to notice the increase of bot use and such, but some would say it was even before that when one of its founder died. Even after that period it was still tolerable compared to what we have now.

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          Agreed. The run-up to the 2016 election was the writing on the wall for me.

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          Reddit was already gaining a lot of clout as a public platform. Around that time was when Bannon leveraged reddit influence to drive the Bernie bros and incels to Trump.

          I’m guessing that’s when the world stage really took notice of reddit as a tool for political influence.

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              Yea I do remember the donald, they weren’t really incel though, just a political sub if i am not wrong. Incels had their own subs as well that got purged at the time along with many ones as well. What was good about Reddit back then was that the platform allowed freedom to a large extent, didn’t bother as long as it wasn’t something in your face that violated the rules, either that, or they didn’t care back then.

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          that was the time when trump won the first term, and putin realized reddit among others was a goldmine for his troll bots. and thats when the banning started.

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        same, after API-drama, noticed a significant amount more warnings and bans from the site, and other have reported the same.

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        prepping for the ipo is when it really started to go to shit and it’s been a non-stop shower since.

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        spez wants it to be a AI datamine, turns out when you ban so many people, it causes them to lurk, so its only propaganda bots, and AI generated content. Also its mostly filled with indian subs too , because the amount of people in india potentially surpasses that of the US, by sheer population numbers, and its not useful to have only indians, since the "continent’ doesnt really affect the US in terms of news, sports, celebrity in that country.

        basically this made OPEN AI AND google see reddit as less useful to scrape.

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          This also points out the problem with using AI in the long term. Reddit’s basically become a micro model of what happens when LLMs start scraping LLM content for content. Fucking tech bros who believe they’re prophets somehow couldn’t have foreseen this.