Andy Burnham has said Russia did interfere with the Brexit referendum and warned that similar activities were taking place in France and Germany.

The prime minister told The Rest is Politics podcast that upon arriving in No 10, he had asked about possible Russian interference in the 2016 vote, adding: “I’ve had the clear answer that, yes, there was.”

“I think we’ve been too much on the back foot on that actually and we haven’t informed people sufficiently about the extent to which people are seeking to disrupt the political process from overseas,” he added.

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    19 hours ago

    What’s your point? AFAIK the debate is not about what “nobody else did”, but the fact that Russia heavily influenced the debate in UK on a democratic election. Something that is against international law. It is pretty obvious that Farage was financed by Russia.

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      17 hours ago

      Something that is against international law.

      The point is that this is a double standard. It’s hypocritical misdirection. Hiding the actual causes for the shit we’re in. It’s neoliberal and US empire propaganda.

      The more complex point would be that our social media networks are unmoderated spaces owned and operated for profit and political power. It should be independent, meaning the workers and users have some democratic input on how it operates and how well it is moderated. This is the root cause - you cannot operate a system on “greed is good and nothing else is allowed” and expect good outcomes. You cannot. It’s a lie. It makes assholes out of all of us. A whole generation of people has been trained like dogs from social media that is why even in moderated space like lemmy you see this bullshit. Everyone fucking clapping like seals: “Yes Russia bad! Kill Russia and everything will be good again! Just one more coup in South or Central America!”

      Against international law lol. Despicable.

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        Why do you need to make Russian interference into US propaganda?
        You sound like a tankie when you do that.

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          7 hours ago

          I’m saying blaming the decline of the west mainly on Russian disinfo is propaganda.

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      19 hours ago

      Fuck Russia but I think it is pretty clear that the big aggressor is the USA, and when they interfere then really nobody cares.

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        18 hours ago

        Interference from USA regarding the Brexit referendum was minimal and nothing compared to Russia.
        As I mentioned Farage was financed by Russia, and it has also been very clear that Boris Johnson has close Russian ties.
        And those were the two most significant and well funded proponents for Brexit.

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        19 hours ago

        UK cannot accuse America of interfering because they are allies and UK needs US more than US needs UK

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          18 hours ago

          Yes, foreign interference in an election of a sovereign country is against international law.
          Europe also don’t meddle in US elections for the same reason. It’s also very much against democratic principles.
          Something USA unfortunately has lost all respect for, so they have interfered multiple times in European elections. Most notably Germany and Hungary, since Trump became president.