• robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    22 hours ago

    what’s so difficult for democrats about being against genocide, war, and ICE? a few of them have said one or two good things but the party as a whole misses the mark and it’s pretty good odds that a given person doesn’t have one of the handful of good reps.

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      13 hours ago

      I totally understand feeling slimy as fuck being forced to vote for people like that. I don’t know what alternatives there are for the upcoming month other than just sucking up and going through with the voting. That doesn’t mean you’re sacrificing your morality or values by playing the game for election day. Just for those days, you play their game to try and claw some voice back. Every other day we must force them to play our game. We aren’t, we maybe can’t right now, but we can’t also let them play us on the few days we’re forced to engage them on their turf. Elections are the civic duty you go through as part of your social contract, but that’s not where our true fight lies. That’s how I see it at least; its a moment to hold the line, voice some sort of opinion, limited though it may be. It may be the only thing allowing you to organize in the future without being labeled a terrorist for your dissenting opinions.

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        13 hours ago

        I totally understand feeling slimy as fuck being forced to vote for people like that

        No you don’t, you won’t even acknowledge the degree of the Democrats crimes.

        I don’t know what alternatives there are for the upcoming month other than just sucking up and going through with the voting.

        Well there were two years to work that out.

        Every other day we must force them to play our game.

        Maybe you should have done that some time in the last decade then

        It may be the only thing allowing you to organize in the future without being labeled a terrorist for your dissenting opinions.

        Lol

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          No you don’t, you won’t even acknowledge the degree of the Democrats crimes

          Well from where I’m standing its you guys who don’t acknowledge the degree of the GOP (and Trump) crimes. Like I see the hole on the ship but I’m a bit more worried about the other ship that put a hole into ours, still there, visibly loading up more slugs.

          Well there were two years to work that out.

          And there’s going to be another 2 years after this where more can be done, but only if people don’t vote for more fascism in this one.

          Maybe you should have done that some time in the last decade then

          I was a bit too busy being from a third world country to do anything about it, sorry.

          Lol

          Lol indeed

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            Sure we do, we just also acknowledge the Democrats do the very same. So since we want things to improve we realise we have to do something other than empower the only two parties that think genocide; corruption; police violence; mass surveillance; concentration camps; modern Gestapo; global warming; pulling the last copper wire out of the walls of the decrepit husks of the state; deregulation; constant bailouts for banks; Lockheed Martin; graft; the MIC; hunting down leftists, queer people, the homeless, POC, Union organisers and woman that want to be more than broodmares for sport; is awesome.

            Who knows, it just might work if we stop unconditionally voting for fanatic theocrstic neoliberal geriatric fascists? Could be worth a shot, might work to try to do literally anything other than the thing we have been doing for several decades while everything has turned to shit. Actually voting unconditionally might have been part of the reason things suck now, since the politicians know they just have to say “he loves Russia” or “She’s gay!” And then their voterbase will suck it up and vote for them even though they think they suck.

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            10 hours ago

            Well from where I’m standing its you guys who don’t acknowledge the degree of the GOP (and Trump) crimes.

            Nobody gives a shit. The genocide wasn’t better under Biden regardless of where you “stand”.

            And there’s going to be another 2 years after this where more can be done, but only if people don’t vote for more fascism in this one.

            That’s what you were saying 2 years ago.

            I was a bit too busy being from a third world country to do anything about it, sorry.

            Then shut the fuck up.

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            12 hours ago

            The smartest thing you could possibly do is shut the fuck up and stop libbing all over the place.

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              11 hours ago

              What, annoyed an ML is arguing common fucking sense? Ruining your accelerationist vibes? Sorry that I fucking despise Americans and their stupid ass choices. Guess that makes me a lib, then, for not wanting a modern Hitler as a neighbor.