Faucet should be labeled capitalism
It’s the fucks who didn’t vote that got Trump elected.
That and election rigging.
lol, liberals have been reduced to political incels.
“I’m a nice guy, you OWE me your vote you stupid removed, and if you don’t give it to me then anything that happens is your fault.”
Lol, just throwing everything at the wall now
Voting maybe part of escalation.
Unless the fascists are able to edit the votes. But that would also be on escalation.
But voting alone may not be safe, if you are dealing with fascists as they will be ready for escalation(may even be wishing for it). You would need your own orgs, preferably communist/socialist orgs since they were one among the most effective against fascists based on history.
Serious question. What is your actionable alternative? Actionable as in something you do
Vote as triage, but lower your expectations on a “big strong man” solving broken systems. Life is short; voting takes time from other meaningful activities. Triage, if time allows, but do other meaningful activities.
Being cautious of the “big strong man” will help recognition of the slide toward any of the flavors of fascism. Populists promise “for the people” or “for the workers” and then centralize “power to” and “power over”. The revolution results in the same broken systems with normal people with no power.
Regarding individual actions:
- Build mutual aid with neighbors
- Develop defence skills (firearms, explosives, hand-to-hand, drones, cardio, trapping, etc)
- Learn real world skills (gardening, mechanics, chopping wood, carpentry, ect)
No gods, no masters. All power to all people.
Revolution, which depends on worker organizing in preparation for the inevitable crisis points of capitalism to take the entire working class in a unified direction against the capitalist state. Smash it, and replace it with one run by the working class, for the working class.
So unionizing?
That can be part of it, but trade unionism alone is not revolution, nor can it become revolution without revolutionary organizing.
Yes, you need a vanguard party. It’s easily to see when you look at India for example where strikes of dozens of millions, even over 100 million were organised in last few years but despite having the strenght way more than enough to topple the government and even entire system, they didn’t even kept the status quo.
Bingo. Bowing to spontaneity is a foolish endeavor, you need direction for mass and force to apply pressure in a pointed area. It’s like blowing up a balloon, it takes far less air to pop it if all of the pressure were able to be localized to a specific area, rather than generally spreading evenly.
Thats not even remotely the same
Just got banned from the USA community for, at least in part, asking this… Albeit less briefly and nowhere near as polite.
Your modlog is public, dumbass. You got banned for being an asshole. This uwu smol bean act you types try to pull off is so pathetic, at least stand by your behavior. If you have it in you to be a dick then you have it in you to admit you were being a dick. If you’re going to be a genocide denying fascist then at least have the guts to not go crying elsewhere about how you actually just a super chill civil dude arguing for socialism.
Unfortunately for you, your modlog is public and shows you were actually banned for genocide denial
You were there, stop bullshitting. Quote where I denied the genocide, let’s see it. What I did say was to get your head out of your ass and vote. Genocide denial is what’s going on with you guys, only putting the dems on a magnifying glass while the other party plans resorts in Gaza.
“Genocide isn’t so bad if it’s to build Israeli settlements and not American resorts!”
Literally your only objection to the actions of the current administration is that it’s Republicans doing it
Genocide denial is what’s going on with you guys
"I know you are but what am I!’
Fucking literal 12 year old
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In your last fucking post. I know you BlueMaga shitlibs can’t remember anything more than a week ago but now you can’t even remember your own previous post.
Or do you just love how things have been going this past decade?
Shrilly screeching at leftists that they must shut the fuck up and vote for Democrats has literally been your strategy for a decade, if you don’t like how it’s been going, stop doing it
Your point of view is fucking disgusting.
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Hahahaha. Dude you’re unintentionally hilarious.
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Fascists are trying to suppress/dissuade/undermine the vote… all im sayin.
You mean like how Democrats are actively sabotaging leftist candidates? Or how Democrats rig primaries? Or how they constantly run propaganda to dissuade anyone from even considering voting for a third party? Or how they gerrymander?
Really? I mostly see the fascists coming in to demand we vote for their genocider of choice.
LOL
Liberals are trying to get me to vote for pro-genocide candidates…all im sayin.
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Literal psychopath.
Gaza wasn’t going to be spared regardless of who won
disgusting
Glad this lib isn’t pretending anymore and confirming what I always say.
They DGAF about anything but themselves.
Not Palestine, not Iranian schoolgirls.
War is bad because it makes their gas prices high and it puts american babykiller military in danger.
That is their disgusting attitude.
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What in the ever loving fuck are you babbling about?
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I don’t like being told that I’m a fucking liberal
Have you considered not being one then?
Stop shilling for liberals then, genius.
Yelling into a mirror
We managed to make it worse in that and every other possible metric.
BlueMaga liberals can’t help but admit they were genocide deniers when it was your team doing it
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The genocide actually slowed down under trump you fucking idiot.
“How is deny the magnitude of a genocide when it was my team doing it genocide denial”
A NeoNazi saying that the Holocaust happened but only killed a few hundred thousand is still a holocaust denier. A BlueMaga loyalist saying that technically there might have been a bit of a genocide under Biden but it didn’t actually get that bad until we could blame Trump for it is still a genocide denier
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It’s the single issue because democrats have fucked up every other issue. People are begging them to give them any excuse to vote for them, but Democrats just love genocide. Like you - you somehow cannot help but defend it.
On top of that its not single issue. Its foreign policy. Gas prices are high because people like you love murdering muslims.
Single issue voters I swear to fucking god
You have to be a completely soulless piece of irredeemable human waste to try to write off mass genocide as “a single issue”.
I became a genocide denier in your eyes for simply trying to argue that there’s more going on in the world
No, that’s not why and you know it, so add being a lying piece of shit to being genocidal scum.
If you don’t like that, I eagerly await your viable alternative that doesn’t make the world fucking worse after November.
How about this, the Democrats denounce genocide and sanction Israel.
other things to vote on
Genocide isn’t “the one thing”, it is the last straw on the back of a very tired camel. There is no longer a single political issue where the democrats have yet to show themselves to be actively detrimental.
Everything else was put aside for this one meaningless issue between both parties. Meaningless as in, Gaza wasn’t going to be spared regardless of who won, and yet, somehow we managed to make it worse in that and every other possible metric.
The majority of palestinians died under Biden. Things did not get worse, you just did not have to pretend to care. In actuality the Palestinian cause is the first one to create any actual progress in the fascist duopoly of the United States. AIPAC is radioactive, psychos like you have to, at the very least, pay lip-service towards the ongoing genocide instead of denying the evidence seen by your own eyes.
You people somehow demand everything is solved immediately if people dare to suggest an alternative to voting for genocidal fascists, yet any critique of the genocidal fascists get dismissed with vague platitudes about slowing things down for some promised day when things will change. How do you think change comes, if not by the focused efforts of people working towards it?! This asinine insistance on entrenching a mass-murdering status quo that you types keep arguing for is deranged. It makes no sense.
Genocide isn’t “the one thing”, it is the last straw on the back of a very tired camel. There is no longer a single political issue where the democrats have yet to show themselves to be actively detrimental.
I’m sorry but I don’t get it. The genocide hasnt stopped, its probably gotten worse, Trump ran to attack Iran after every other president in my entire life had turned down Israel. How is anything better right now vs when dems hold any sort of power and just pretend they can’t do shit? Like I also get how fucking stupid their spineless are, but on this specific issue, both sides are virtually the same? So why make this the issue that decides everything else? Trump has directly made my country worse by very directly interfering with our elections and pardoning our drug lord president. He’s emboldened the far right around the entire world, he’s turned corporate America into the owners of the world, tripled the price of gas in less than a year, and is about to throw us into the deep end of a worldwide depression. The cracks were there but this motherfucker is pushing with all he has to break things, and the genocide is still happening in the background. I truly, sincerely don’t get it.
The majority of palestinians died under Biden. Things did not get worse, you just did not have to pretend to care. In actuality the Palestinian cause is the first one to create any actual progress in the fascist duopoly of the United States. AIPAC is radioactive, psychos like you have to, at the very least, pay lip-service towards the ongoing genocide instead of denying the evidence seen by your own eyes.
My eyes have been paying close attention since October 7th. Do not make the mistake of assuming my identity just because I am arguing for voting. I am American, because I live in the continent of America, but I am not a US citizen. I am Honduran, living in Honduras, watching this madness unfold and unable to do shit about it. I cannot vote in the empire’s games, I simply take it in the ass when you make the wrong choice. You’ve all been making the wrong choice for at least the past decade (definitely longer), and we’re all paying for it.
You people somehow demand everything is solved immediately if people dare to suggest an alternative to voting for genocidal fascists, yet any critique of the genocidal fascists get dismissed with vague platitudes about slowing things down for some promised day when things will change. How do you think change comes, if not by the focused efforts of people working towards it?! This asinine insistance on entrenching a mass-murdering status quo that you types keep arguing for is deranged. It makes no sense
What makes no sense is arguing anything else for election day. You just go out and vote for not trump, for anything that makes trump and his base lose power. Its not as hard or as immoral as you make it out to be. What makes no sense is that you all argue this, then the fascists become MORE empowered, ad infinitum. You’re essentially arguing for accelerationism, hoping that this mess eventually breaks people into revolution, or in similar words to yours, dismissing my arguments with vague platitudes about speeding things up for the worse, for some promised day when things will change. We’re both probably arguing out of the devices built to prevent that from happening. Things are just going to get worse, but at least you won’t have voted for “the genocidal party”, right?
You could do all you say, organizing, pushing, resisting, fighting. You insist on doing nothing instead, and in the exact planned moment when the bullies pull out the rulebook and decide your actions, or rather lack thereof, give them more power rather than less. Then your actions, your voice, your presence shrinks by the power of the law of the land. But at least you didn’t vote for the genocidal party.
accelerationism
Seriously, which fucking liberal podcast was it that has every single fucking shitlib suddenly parroting “accelerationism!” At every opportunity while also using it wrong
My eyes have been paying close attention since October 7th.
Ok, well that confirms you are deliberately downplaying the Democrats role in genocide rather than simply being ignorant of it
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The accelerationism mention is because I simply cannot understand what you guys win from having trump or the GOP win.
Ok, that wasn’t my question. My question is who thought you and all the other shitlibs who have suddenly started squawking it to reflexively bleat it at every junction while clearly not understanding what it means.
Yes you’re right, that is the one and only issue in the whole world which the US affects and I’m definitely downplaying it for the liberal agenda
I don’t care why you downplayed it, there’s no possible excuse
I really dont get it
I can see how you have a hard time understanding things if you always do what you’ve done here and ignore it when people explain the thing you dont get.
Why make this the issue that determines everything else
So you quote the part about this not being the one thing, yet if you kept reading instead of wasting time writing a whole bunch of nothing, then you might have gotten your answer. It was the last straw.
Trump
The only difference between Trump and the democrats is a bad tanjob. Democrats are just as gleeful supporters of insurgents far right militias around the world, there is nothing Trump is doing that they aren’t doing as well. You claim to be a honduran, you should be well aware of this in that case.
You talk about “emboldening far right movements across the world” what the fuck do you think the democrats are doing when they’re supplying bombs to Israel? Biden expanded the ICE camps everyone were freaking out about under Trumps first term, yet none of you motherfuckers bat an eye. None of the things you mention here matter to you, you only care because the guy in charge is fat and rude about it.
Since October 7
Which, as we all know is when history began.
What makes no sense is arguing anything else for election day. You just go out and vote for not trump, for anything that makes trump and his base lose power.
Nobody here is arguing that people should vote for Trump, what are you smoking? People just also think you shouldnt vote for the other group of fascist genociders.
You’re essentially arguing for accelerationism
You have to tell me what lib-ass podcast that had an episode about accelerationism recently, because all of you half-wits throw the term around now and none of you are using it correctly. Was it that behind the Bastards slop?
Buddy an accelerationist would vote for a democrat, YOU are arguing for accelerationism. You do not understand the term.Things are just going to get worse, but at least you won’t have voted for “the genocidal party”, right?
I thought you understood how terrible the democrats are, yet now they’re “the genocide party”? And they’re somehow going to improve things? Weird how your position changes to whatever is most beneficial to your argument in the moment, almost like you dont have any ideological rigidity or real understanding of the world.
Are the democrats a bad party that one has to vote for because the republicans are worse, or are they a party that will improve things?It is much better to try to do anything to affect positive change than to vote for a group of genocidal fascists that are making things worse - which both the democrats and the republicans are. You people are so fucking facetious, you always swing from “oh they’re also bad, I acknowledge that” to “Wow just because they’re not perfect???”
I want things to improve. Therefore I cannot vote for democrats, since they are only making things worse. I especially cannot vote for them unconditionally, since that gives them absolutely no reason to ever improve. If it is true that the people like me are the reason the democrats lost, then why are you mad at us - a group that made very clear, simple and easy to follow demands of those wanting our vote - instead of being mad at the democrats, a party that could not win an election against a man as uniquely terrible as you think he is? Why is your ire not directed at the absolutely incompetent politicians within that party that somehow managed to ignore the one group they should have listened to if they wanted to win?
It is because in your mind the party cannot fail, it can only be failed. You are like a circus elephant, broken to the wheel, despite the fact that you could easily move beyond it now in your adulthood.You insist on doing nothing instead
Why is it that when you people hear “dont vote for democrats” then that becomes “give up and do nothing at all, all is lost”? What is it with this defeatist attitude of yours where the only thing there is to do is to vote for democrats? Is it because you are disingenuous assholes who know you can’t argue against the actual position with which you find yourself in disagreeance, or is it because you are such a frothing at the mouth blue team fascist that if someone does not give their unconditional support to your xenophobic bigoted geriatric police-state fascists, then that means they are functionally non-existent?
Way to pretend there couldn’t possibly exist a leftist critique of American electoralism on a platform created by Marxists, but you do you.
Yes, but also, the timing is always dangerous. Let’s removed about it all however much we want, but let’s not fall for the thought trap of growing disenfranchised from the voting process, however rigged it may be. Whatever argument you have against the system, we all have to admit that Trump winning the first time was not something even the establishment expected. If they can do surprises, so can we. Their biggest trick is to make you think your vote doesn’t matter when it so clearly does, even when the electoral college is stacked against it. The electoral college wouldn’t be so dearly protected if your vote didn’t matter.
… Not that I’m saying you personally hold these views, but I’ve seen them around enough that I feel the need to voice my thoughts as well.
Stop referring to us as “we”, because “we” aren’t liberals. We’re not part of your base. We are communists.
We don’t vote liberal and never will.
If our votes matter so much you better believe ee not going to use them on the genocidal monsters of the DNC
If our votes matter so much, then why isn’t @JGrffn@lemmy.world mad at the democrats for not appealing to us and thus losing to the most evil man to ever exist who singularly made USA bad?
If I were in that place Id probably spend a bit more time yelling at democrats to please for gods sake get their votes! They’re single issue voters! Its so easy! Its all you have to do not let the fascist man win! Everything will be sunshine and rainbows and the bombs you drop will be Coated with candy, so for gods sake why cant you appeal to these simple single issue voters???But then again I haven’t lost two elections to Donald Trump, so what do I know?
So its going to the definitely-not-genocidal definitely-not-israel-loving goblins at the GOP? Because any choice other than Dems, including abstinence, is a vote for GOP and Trump. It’s virtually coded into the electoral college.
Like I get hating the dems, but Jesus Christ there’s king donkey kong over there, behind them, climbing the fucking empire state while holding an underage princess (and a fuck ton of redactions) in his hand.
p -> q
Because any choice other than Dems, including abstinence, is a vote for GOP and Trump.
Ok, then it’s a moot point because Trump is going to get 200 million votes and win in the largest landslide in US history
How the fuck does not voting for a candidate count as a vote for the other one? Are you hearing yourself? You’re just making shit up.
Not voting for candidate A doesn’t mean candidate B got a vote in any shade of reality. But somehow, in your liberal hellhole of a psyche, the two actions are seemingly indistinguishable.
Dumb as hell, it is crazy.
This is literally elections 101 dude. You vote, someone votes against you, there’s 2 votes and theyre tied. You don’t vote, someone still votes against you, that’s one vote against you and none for you and you just lost. That is the literal scenario presented when you’re learning how to vote.
If you’re telling me you’re not voting because you’re going to bomb the Capitol and white house, or begin a revolution on election day, hey be my guest, but the truth is youll just stay home, letting others vote against you. I guess I expected too much out of you to understand such a simple concept.
Dumb as a box of rocks.
In that case I can ease your mind. Everyone here didn’t vote for the democrats 1000 times, but they didnt vote for the republicans 10000 times, so we actually gave democrats 9000 votes each. Sadly we all live in Bushwick, so our votes dont matter anyway.
You vote, someone votes against you, there’s 2 votes and theyre tied. You don’t vote, someone still votes against you, that’s one vote against you
You understand this isn’t a real world scenario though, right? In the actual system America uses you vote and it doesn’t matter because someone else’s vote counted 3 times more than yours.
Man you’re fucking thick, lol.
The timing is not dangerous at all. The democrats themselves dont believe that “now is not the time” bullshit. They hamstring and sabotage left-wing candidates any chance they get no matter the time and place. Since the people espousing that bs dont believe it, then there is absolutely no reason I should.
Every time I hear people talking about “punishing the Democrats”, I see the full-on fascists growing in power shortly afterwards. You punished Hillary for sabotaging Bernie, Biden for being too geriatric, and Biden and Kamala for outright skipping the primaries. What happened in every scenario? The most morally bankrupt person we know just waltzed into power and started doing whatever the fuck he wanted, with some resistance at first, and then with ecstatic embrace. Are we really so eager to pave the accelerationist’s road?
Edit: oh hey I just realized it’s you from the other post on /c/USA. I got banned from that community for our little discussion. Had a reply for you and all. Hope you have a great November 3rd (or whenever elections are). I sure as shit won’t.
I do not remember you, it would probably have been easier if you had said anything novel or insightful. Or at least managed to engage with the actual things people are writing.
Nobody is talking about “punishing democrats” why do you people consistently make up arguments nobody is making? Relate to the actual position of those you disagree with, if you are so insistent on pursuing a discussion.
People are not voting for democrats because the democrats are not willing to represent them. This isn’t some self-damaging action out of spite, its basic politics - If you want a constituency, then you have to appeal to it. If you show yourself unable, unwilling or - in the case of the democrats - directly at odds with the needs of the people you want to vote for you, then you’re going to get 0 votes.The majority of what you have written is dismissed due to the fact you’re arguing against a position no one is holding. People aren’t on some simplistic “punishment” crusade. They want things to improve and the democrats have shown themselves to be detrimental to this end. If you cannot engage with this, then your agitation is pointless because you will only manage to preach to your genocidal Choir.
It does not help your case that you then continue to hallucinate other arguments. The majority of those that voted for Bernie in the primaries voted for Hillary Clinton in the presidential election (something that cannot be said for her supporters in the '08 election by the way). She lost because she has terrible political instincts. She elevated Trump to the republican nominee through her use of the Pied Piper strategy and then managed to eat shit because she has terrible instincts. She punished herself.
Regarding Biden: He won, in large part due to leftists voting for him as a “harm reduction” candidate due to fears of Trumps mismanagement of COVID, the increased focus on what ICE had been doing (under Obama as well), a worry about foreign entanglements, mismanagement of the economy, increased bloodshed abroad, the summer of 2020 and the BLM and abolish the police movements and finally Roe V Wade.
Biden then quickly went back on his promises about stimulus checks, giving less than promised and less times, he went back on his promises about the minimum wage and debt relief, he swept COVID under the rug and opened up even though we were still in the midst of a pandemic, he did absolutely fuck all to stop Roe v Wade being overturned, he basically started a proxy war with Russia, he committed a genocide and decided to massively expand both ICE and police budgets while doing fuck all about the still deteriorating conditions of the average american and US infrastructure, instead using the work those movements had done to push through bills that gave a bunch of money to cops, the military and his friends while crushing labour rights. He crushed Union strikes and when overworked laborers on railways with fucked infrastructure had monumental disasters his administration did all it could to swipe it under the rug. On the back of this we then had Kamala Harris who said “actually all of that shit is awesome, I’m going to be doing more of it and you’re wrong about things being more expensive than they used to be while you are getting paid less. Also genocide is awesome, vote for me or the orange guy wins and he’s going to be doing a genocide.” Somehow this wasn’t a winning platform and people, desperate for an inkling of competent politics, had to organise en masse to make the obvious undeniable: Please Just Do At Least One Thing We Ask Of You, Or At Least Pretend You Will. Harris decided to ignore this and she lost.Following her loss AIPAC has become radioactive, establishment dems are on the backfoot constantly running defense and more and more people are finally realising that unconditionally voting for a candidate promising death and destruction is not an effective way of creating change. You might make it some day too.
Accelerationist
If we really have interacted before then I know you know you are using the term wrong.
I look forward to your response where you manage to engage with nothing I write, answer no questions, hallucinate something I did not write, pretend I did not adress your many faulty arguments, make even more dogshit arguments resting on (if we are very lucky to be honest) half-remembered anecdotes with only a vague relation to reality (because we both know you’re far more likely to just outright lie and make shit up, like you’ve done here), and a painfully obvious attempt at changing the discussion to some other field you are also woefully ignorant in, because you are too prideful to acknowledge when your arguments come up short. Thats how you types always do. Or you’ll pretend to be obtuse. Maybe you’ll even call me a bot! Or just crack and use the slurs you’re so fond of using when you get mad.
Looking forward to seeing which it will be.edit: Oh well you got banned. Such a shame now I won’t get to hear your novel insights on how genocide is good actually or how ICE concentration camps are only bad when Trump does them. Maybe next time you’ll get to tell me that I have to be realistic and accept the only way of changing things is by doing the thing we’ve been doing to no await for decades now, and anything else is unrealistic. Fire off the big guns and explain that we have to delay things, think long term, but also we cant vote third party because that would only have effects wayyy down the road and it does not make everything better immediately - As opposed to voting for the corrupt fascists actively fucking over any and all leftist candidate, which will make everything good right now.
Biden for being too geriatric, and Biden and Kamala for outright skipping the primaries.
BlueMaga fascists literally can’t imagine someone actually be sincerely against genocide
I sure as shit won’t.
Good
what’s so difficult for democrats about being against genocide, war, and ICE? a few of them have said one or two good things but the party as a whole misses the mark and it’s pretty good odds that a given person doesn’t have one of the handful of good reps.
I totally understand feeling slimy as fuck being forced to vote for people like that. I don’t know what alternatives there are for the upcoming month other than just sucking up and going through with the voting. That doesn’t mean you’re sacrificing your morality or values by playing the game for election day. Just for those days, you play their game to try and claw some voice back. Every other day we must force them to play our game. We aren’t, we maybe can’t right now, but we can’t also let them play us on the few days we’re forced to engage them on their turf. Elections are the civic duty you go through as part of your social contract, but that’s not where our true fight lies. That’s how I see it at least; its a moment to hold the line, voice some sort of opinion, limited though it may be. It may be the only thing allowing you to organize in the future without being labeled a terrorist for your dissenting opinions.
Nobody can force me to vote for genocide. Weird how that works, isn’t it?
I totally understand feeling slimy as fuck being forced to vote for people like that
No you don’t, you won’t even acknowledge the degree of the Democrats crimes.
I don’t know what alternatives there are for the upcoming month other than just sucking up and going through with the voting.
Well there were two years to work that out.
Every other day we must force them to play our game.
Maybe you should have done that some time in the last decade then
It may be the only thing allowing you to organize in the future without being labeled a terrorist for your dissenting opinions.
Lol
No you don’t, you won’t even acknowledge the degree of the Democrats crimes
Well from where I’m standing its you guys who don’t acknowledge the degree of the GOP (and Trump) crimes. Like I see the hole on the ship but I’m a bit more worried about the other ship that put a hole into ours, still there, visibly loading up more slugs.
Well there were two years to work that out.
And there’s going to be another 2 years after this where more can be done, but only if people don’t vote for more fascism in this one.
Maybe you should have done that some time in the last decade then
I was a bit too busy being from a third world country to do anything about it, sorry.
Lol
Lol indeed
Sure we do, we just also acknowledge the Democrats do the very same. So since we want things to improve we realise we have to do something other than empower the only two parties that think genocide; corruption; police violence; mass surveillance; concentration camps; modern Gestapo; global warming; pulling the last copper wire out of the walls of the decrepit husks of the state; deregulation; constant bailouts for banks; Lockheed Martin; graft; the MIC; hunting down leftists, queer people, the homeless, POC, Union organisers and woman that want to be more than broodmares for sport; is awesome.
Who knows, it just might work if we stop unconditionally voting for fanatic theocrstic neoliberal geriatric fascists? Could be worth a shot, might work to try to do literally anything other than the thing we have been doing for several decades while everything has turned to shit. Actually voting unconditionally might have been part of the reason things suck now, since the politicians know they just have to say “he loves Russia” or “She’s gay!” And then their voterbase will suck it up and vote for them even though they think they suck.
Well from where I’m standing its you guys who don’t acknowledge the degree of the GOP (and Trump) crimes.
Nobody gives a shit. The genocide wasn’t better under Biden regardless of where you “stand”.
And there’s going to be another 2 years after this where more can be done, but only if people don’t vote for more fascism in this one.
That’s what you were saying 2 years ago.
I was a bit too busy being from a third world country to do anything about it, sorry.
Then shut the fuck up.
The smartest thing you could possibly do is shut the fuck up and stop libbing all over the place.
What, annoyed an ML is arguing common fucking sense? Ruining your accelerationist vibes? Sorry that I fucking despise Americans and their stupid ass choices. Guess that makes me a lib, then, for not wanting a modern Hitler as a neighbor.
Guess that makes me a lib
Yep
accelerationist
It’s like a 12 year old who just heard a new word and is using it everywhere even when it doesn’t make sense
Stop using words that you don’t understand, lmfao.
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Classic nazilib.world, “anything not liberal is a BOTTTT”
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Yes, we know you’re a paranoid McCarthyist who sees all dissent as part of an evil conspiracy.
Fascism shill? I didnt see them advocate voting for democrats anywhere.
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Being pro maga is when you accurately point out a promise of treats for Amerikans doesn’t outweigh genocide and imperialism.
Never beating the not seeing people outside of the west as human allegations.
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“Anyone who dissents is a subhuman foreigner”
Forgot to add: “Everyone who disagrees with me is an unthinking machine” And Other Insane Conspiracies For The Right-Wing Mind
And straight to dehumanising. Really leaning into not seeing non westerners as humans.
Looking forward to seeing you and your ilk getting what’s coming to you as your empire declines.
Your syntax is also incorrect, does this mean we get to disregard everything you say?
Genuine question: What part about accurately pointing out that the democrats are fascist makes me a republican?
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Democrats are fascists. They are in favour of: Concentration camps, slavery, mass surveillance, a police state, the MIC, genocide, imperialism, persecution of queer people, persecution of POC, persecution of marginalised groups, group punishment, election suppression, voter suppression, and everything else that the Republican party and fascists in general love. They are massively nationalist and religious zealots. They harp on about patriotism, the bible, how great the US is, how evil foreigners like the chinese and russians are coming to take it all away.
It does not matter that they are less crude, this is what they support politically.Liberals aren’t fascists
They are actually.
