Literally any country that enforces its laws is “authoritarian”. It doesn’t mean anything.
There’s a reason that George Orwell is studied in middle school. Literally baby’s first politics
So you agree Orwell’s politics and writing are infantile
You mean the same Orwell that collaborated with the British government to snitch on communists?
Yeah, no wonder he gets taught in schools. Better to get your political education from works of fiction than reality I suppose.
No, the reason is that his books are anticommunist drivel and projection masquaraded as accessible political theory. They serve to teach you anticommunism and liberalism.
Incidentally, Asimov wrote a great review of 1984 basically calling Orwell an emotionally stunted manchild who wrote a tantrum disguised as a novel. Orwell was a guilt ridden rich kid who played hippie in the slums then got his feelings hurt in Spain and spent the rest of his life writing revenge fantasies against Stalin instead of actually trying to understand how the world works.
1984 was just boring and lifeless rant where nothing happens, and the technology is nonsensical like having humans watch every citizen on camera instead of just using computers which even Asimov in the 1980s could see was laughably inefficient. Orwell couldn’t imagine women as anything but brainless sex objects or proles as anything but subhuman animals and he thought ballpoint pens were worse than actual scratching steel nibs. The guy was a technophobic elitist with zero forward vision who projected his personal grudge onto the future and millions of people treat his little hissy fit like prophecy. It’s frankly incredible that his shallow writing became a cultural icon in the west.
I lived in china for 4 years, got out of the expat bubble, lived in smaller cities and I gotta say, for people that have never been to china or actually been friends with Chinese people, y’all are pretty allergic to any criticism, no matter how legitimate, of china. Maybe take a step back from YOUR OWN biases and be a little objective. There are great things about china. There are bad things about china. No country’s perfect
Quite the impressive straw man you’ve built here. At risk of falling into a no true Scotsman, I have never seen anyone on here even approach implying China is perfect simply that criticism should be situated within the proper context of material reality and pushing back on the unfortunate tidlewave of nonsense many people seem to believe is true and valid criticism.
You haven’t been the discourses I have. All my previous comment is based on firsthand experience right here on lemmy.
So’s mine, and my experience says you’re lying about your experience
Imagine someone having a different experience than you. The shock and horror.
Might it have anything to do with your demeanor, disposition, actions and words?
Idk, I’ve been much more civil than you. Probably has to do with the fact my views on china aren’t as rosy as the sinophiles here on lemmy. Usually goes something like this “Idk man, there’s a lot of merit to the claim that there’s aggressive censorship in China. I experienced it firsthand.” And the response will be something like “You’re a brainwashed western chauvinist.”
But I also get it from the other side. Like when it comes to healthcare in China. People call me a liar when I tell them it was fast, cheap, and good.
So I guess I’m a liar to both sides of the china brain rot.
Idk, I’ve been much more civil than you.
Haha, no.
Probably has to do with the fact my views on china aren’t as rosy as the sinophiles here on lemmy.
The classic western liberal thing of pretending that any other westerner who sides with the empire’s enemies must simply be doing it out of some kind of contrarian fetishism or pseudoreligious mania. Whatever the reason you decide, it can’t possibly be that the communist is in his right mind, because that’s a terrifying prospect you have no answer for.





