For those who need to know more:
Local media have reported that the institute has subsequently been locked down, with staff forced to sleep on the floor and on chairs. “They’ve been isolating everybody since Friday – more than 60 people,” one relative, Roman, told the news portal Siberia.Realities.
He said family members were allowed to drop off food at a checkpoint while tests were carried out inside the building. Similar quarantine restrictions have been placed on several other hospitals in and around the city.
At least this time around they seem to be treating it seriously instead of trying to cover it up to save face I guess?
I think I’ve seen this before.
who are these people?
From the HBO show Chernobyl. It’s really well made and worth watching.
The show was very well done, but it implies this was history. That mass of reactor is still burning underground, and Russian bombs have damaged the sarcophagus covering it. The remaining reactors are still in use.
Chernobyl shut down its last active reactor a decade ago.
Just finished watching this and it’s one of the best miniseries I’ve seen. It did such an incredible job of portraying the oppressiveness of the Soviet state and its impact on its citizens. I found it a bit soul crushing seeing the parallels to what’s currently happening in the US when ideology comes first.
I saw it as one rogue asshole boss causing a disaster.
US tried to downplay three mile island.
WHO is still asking Russia for more details, including what actually caused the lab worker’s death and reports of a second pneumonia case.
https://twitee.co/DrTedros/status/2107591815863968121
So I guess we’re still at the “not enough information” stage.
That was Ukraine though. I guess still USSR.
The Soviet management fucking everything up is eternal and omnipresent.
Any information to the contrary, or is it just more propagandist hype?
Russia is hiding all the plague victims? Seriously?
Hi Mr. Local Area Man. Funny of you to show up in yet another thread claiming that Russia is being preyed upon by the west again.
🙄 as if, huh
Hey man, I’m just saying, maybe Putin shouldn’t have orchestrated apartment bombings, sold former soviet assets to oligarchs, own several luxurious properties throughout your country, had political dissidents and opponents assassinated (inside and outside of Russia) took extreme efforts to install pro-Putin leaders in other countries, make all displays of LGBTQ pride and education illegal, control the entire media system, and not relinquish power ever.
Let’s say your wildest accusations against this foreign Emuel Goldstein boogieman were true. You’re saying that the West wouldn’t want to destroy Russia and take all their shit? As if. Everything you accuse Russia of doing is true for America or the dictatorships we foster. We’re currently arming over 80% of all dictatorships. The only difference is that they’re willingly giving us their natural resources.
Weird how no one talks about Venezuela anymore. That propaganda sure dried up quick after they turned over their oil fields to corporations.
Like I said the last time we spent a week in a thread going back and forth, I can do this forever. You know I can.
You already established you aren’t American, and CERTAINLY aren’t culturally progressive. You claim it, every single time, say “we’re doing x.” “We do x.” You don’t even realize you’re on a European instance do you?
I didn’t claim Russia was doing SHIT this time. I merely responded that you claim Russia is a victim of the west.
Putin, and his Kremlin are the problem for Russians. Vladamir Putin, specifically.
The rest of the world worries about Russians because of what Putin has done to them to enrich himself.
The rest of the world?
And even then, that’s just Western oligarchs dictating policies we have no say in.
What happens when you ask the people who the biggest threat is?
You’re a minority within a minority, lapping up lies from the Epstein Billionaire Class.
And that’s the part I find funny. You simply cannot comprehend, or allow, that because I dissent from not just the current regime, but most administrations of the U.S., that I must be eating up the propaganda.
Its not even odd to you is it? The U.S.A currently has a very pro-Putin regime. Yet the U.S.A is doing exactly what you are pointing out.
I mean, fuck, the Trump family has made significant money IN Russia. The Kremlin, the sole authority in Russia could stop that cash in an instant. Why don’t they?
But I mention the cruelty of Putin, and you get all bent out of shape. Putin is a victim of western propaganda.
Do you need a list I have of 64 people who the Kremlin successfully assassinated? Or just the ones within Russia?
Maybe they’ll do the same thing as China. Leaving their international airports functional while locking down their cities, intentionally infecting as many places as possible. And then legit Xi goes on air to scold other nations telling them they need to learn how to do international cooperation.
Everything was closed in Wuhan except outbound international flights.
Leaving their international airports functional while locking down their cities, intentionally infecting as many places as possible.
Are we still doing Wuhan Lab Leak Theory? Wasn’t that debunked ages ago as some Trumpie lie pushed to deflect our own abysmal COVID response?
China continues to withhold data from the WHO regarding the outbreak in Wuhan. That in itself is not proof, but now, seven years into the pandemic, I personally find it suspicious. The other indicators supporting the lab-origin theory are well known. Aside from the incompetence of the Trump I administration, it seems that some intelligence agencies still subscribe to this theory.
Are we still doing Wuhan Lab Leak Theory? Wasn’t that debunked ages ago
There was an attempt at debunking the lab leak theory early on with a nature article saying we do not believe any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible. Then there was a rejected DARPA research proposal detailing exactly how the laboratory-based scenario is possible.
Lab origin has not been proven but there is no natural zoonotic path to Wuhan. Lab encouraged gain of function with in species reproduction seems most likely.
Half the US intelligence agencies support the lab origin theory.
there is no natural zoonotic path to Wuhan
How do you get from “we don’t think the disease naturally originated in Wuhan” to “China engineered a virus, released it in their own city, and then used that as a vector for malicious infection of the rest of the world”?
Half the US intelligence agencies support the lab origin theory.
They also insisted Iraq had nuclear weapons.
How do you get from “we don’t think the disease naturally originated in Wuhan” to “China engineered a virus, released it in their own city, and then used that as a vector for malicious infection of the rest of the world”?
I didn’t. You invented all of that.
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We know the EcoHealth Alliance had a gain of function research proposal that would have produced a virus remarkably similar to covid was rejected for funding by DARPA.
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We know Covid originated in Wuhan.
Accidents happen even in level 4 biolabs. The is no need for you to be sinophobic.
We know Covid originated in Wuhan.
Neither has the “no natural zoonotic path” bit, incidentally.
Accidents happen even in level 4 biolabs.
And we’re back to Wuhan Lab Leak Theory.
A natural zoonotic path does not (yet) exist. It is correct to say none has been found.
the Huanan Market in Wuhan was the early and main epicentre of SARS‐CoV‐2 infection.
There you are.
there is no indication that the Wuhan Institute of Virology had studied viruses similar to SARS‐CoV‐2 or artificially modified coronaviruses before the COVID‐19 pandemic
This part of the paper is out of date. We now know there was a subaward to the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, to understand how bat coronaviruses have the potential to become transmissible to the human population.
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I think there’s just not enough information to say with confidence one way or the other. Biden commissioned a report that was inconclusive, in part because of non-cooperation from the Chinese government. From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assessment_on_COVID-19_Origins
Updated Assessment on COVID-19 Origins is a report of the United States Intelligence Community regarding the origin of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which was commissioned on May 26, 2021, by President Joe Biden and submitted on August 24.[1]
Biden initially ordered his intelligence services to “redouble efforts” to investigate the virus’s origin.[2] The report, which was released on August 27, noted that the Intelligence Community did not reach a unanimous conclusion on the origin of the virus, with four agencies determining that the index case was likely a result of natural exposure, with another agency considering it as the result of a laboratory incident, although the community overall agreed that it was not linked to biological warfare. The community concluded that a conclusive investigation would require cooperation with the Chinese government.[1][3] Analysts considered that the investigation proved incapable of reaching a definitive conclusion on the origins of COVID-19, and the report was criticized by Chinese officials.
Biden commissioned a report that was inconclusive, in part because of non-cooperation from the Chinese government.
The clandestine operation has not been previously reported. It aimed to sow doubt about the safety and efficacy of vaccines and other life-saving aid that was being supplied by China, a Reuters investigation found. Through phony internet accounts meant to impersonate Filipinos, the military’s propaganda efforts morphed into an anti-vax campaign. Social media posts decried the quality of face masks, test kits and the first vaccine that would become available in the Philippines – China’s Sinovac inoculation.
Reuters identified at least 300 accounts on X, formerly Twitter, that matched descriptions shared by former U.S. military officials familiar with the Philippines operation.
