• dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    So instead of blaming the system that gave us two parties, you blame the voters who had no choice but to vote for two parties?

    ~Sounds solid. 👍~

    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
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      9 days ago

      There are always other choices, but those might possibly require actual work and personal risk so they’re too scary for the voter brain to handle

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        1 day ago

        There are plenty of growing worker organizations you can contribute to now. That’s the task, not simply waiting for revolution to fall into your lap.

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        10 days ago

        You’re talking to Americans here. Fucking cowards aren’t even willing to block traffic or occupy buildings. The mere suggestion of a response that’s a step or two beyond that, approaching something halfway proprtionate? They’ll piss their pants in fear, clutch their pearls and start attacking YOU more forcefully than they’d ever come at MAGA.

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          10 days ago

          Have you seen American police? They have machine guns, tanks, and air support. They’ve been trained to see citizens as the enemy for years (see Warrior Cop Training).

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            10 days ago

            And your move is to… keep allowing this and keep your head down?

            Congratulations. You have agreed to a political morality where the government’s entitlement to your obedience increases in direct proportion to how willing it is to fucking kill you.

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              10 days ago

              Look, I’m old and have serious health issues. Your comments are ableist and simplistic. I’m not going to unilaterally sacrifice myself.

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                9 days ago

                No they’re completely right, plenty of old people throughout history have managed not to be fucking cowards

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                10 days ago

                Americans, forever unable to imagine collective action except as a series of unilateral individual decisions. Okay, great- clearly your best move, then, is to shit-talk direct action in spaces where people considering it are likely to gather.

                If you don’t want to put your comfort at risk, fine. Very least you could do is not actively contribute to the problem.

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                  9 days ago

                  You don’t really understand American life. We work ourselves nearly to death because our unions have been broken and gutted and demonized, we have no decent healthcare and we still have to spend an unacceptable amount of time and money for it, most of us are enslaved by the cost of our enormous cars and by housing that is increasingly exploited by private equity, and we are constantly barraged by divisive propaganda and suspicion campaigns. This all results in a populace that is spent. You may experience some of that, but you cannot imagine the totally of it, which is why it seems so easy for you. Maybe your age is also a factor?

                  Either way, I’m not changing any minds here. There’s not enough upvotes to worry about, so your complaint seems like looking for a moral panic to pin on me, which is pretty funny.

      • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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        11 days ago

        Someone let me know when we’re getting off the internet and rioting.

        I heard they were just waiting for you, man.

    • CrocodilloBombardino@piefed.social
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      11 days ago

      really it seems like it’s blaming people for just voting & hoping, instead of organizing and building a movement. voting for the lesser evil is not enough.

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        11 days ago

        voting for the lesser evil is not enough.

        Evolution can’t work if we back-slide.

        just voting & hoping, instead of organizing and building a movement.

        Let us know when your clip airs on the news.

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          10 days ago

          Evolution can’t work if we back-slide.

          “the lesser” evil is still evil, it is still a backslide in your line of argument

          Let us know when your clip airs on the news.

          Let me know when your strategy of voting for genociders stops the genocide

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          Evolution can’t work if we back-slide

          Like, for example, if we let a cop run the country? I agree. Let’s force the DNC to back more progressive candidates instead of more conservative ones. Signalling that you’ll vote for literally anyone with a D next to their name only incentivizes them to appeal to the right.

          One sec, I’m getting a premonition… You’re going to tell me to ”vOtE iN pRiMaRiEs" as if the DNC doesn’t have a monumental sway in which candidates end up on ballots. I do vote in primaries, for the record