Nope, it’s also a consequence of often choosing the greater evil.
And for favouring short term over long term planning.
And zero-sum thinking.
And us vs them mentality.
And a lack of critical thinking in general.
As of liberals think long term. They are reactionary like their conservative bedfellows
Pretty sure donald was the eviler of two evils. The evilist of many evils.
Which is more evil, Dr Frankenstein or the monster?
The FBI didn’t create this corrupt pedophile. They allowed him to run for president.
Starting an international child trafficking ring was him spending his own ass money how he wanted to.
well i mean were we supposed to choose the greater of two evils?
You could also choose anyone else or make any sort of demand of your party
I dont have a party
You do - the democrats.
I get what you’re trying to do, to create a discussion around semantics so you can fuck around with minutiae instead of having a dialogue on something where you are woefully out of depth. But please just stop the interaction instead, you dont have to reply to everything.What does that mean? Im not a member im not employed by them and i dont agree with their policies. Yes, they are the lesser evil than the republican party by far, but that doesn’t mean it’s my party. I just have to choose between them like i have to choose between apple and google.
I explained what it meant.
Where did you explain how the democrats are my party?
I don’t know what would be sadder: if all the various people in this thread posting variations of the above are wilfully missing the point, or, if they genuinely can’t comprehend any other way.
So instead of blaming the system that gave us two parties, you blame the voters who had no choice but to vote for two parties?
~Sounds solid. 👍~
There are always other choices, but those might possibly require actual work and personal risk so they’re too scary for the voter brain to handle
really it seems like it’s blaming people for just voting & hoping, instead of organizing and building a movement. voting for the lesser evil is not enough.
voting for the lesser evil is not enough.
Evolution can’t work if we back-slide.
just voting & hoping, instead of organizing and building a movement.
Let us know when your clip airs on the news.
Evolution can’t work if we back-slide.
“the lesser” evil is still evil, it is still a backslide in your line of argument
Let us know when your clip airs on the news.
Let me know when your strategy of voting for genociders stops the genocide
Evolution can’t work if we back-slide
Like, for example, if we let a cop run the country? I agree. Let’s force the DNC to back more progressive candidates instead of more conservative ones. Signalling that you’ll vote for literally anyone with a D next to their name only incentivizes them to appeal to the right.
One sec, I’m getting a premonition… You’re going to tell me to ”vOtE iN pRiMaRiEs" as if the DNC doesn’t have a monumental sway in which candidates end up on ballots. I do vote in primaries, for the record
Seriously. Someone let me know when we’re getting off the internet and rioting.
There are plenty of growing worker organizations you can contribute to now. That’s the task, not simply waiting for revolution to fall into your lap.
Someone let me know when we’re getting off the internet and rioting.
I heard they were just waiting for you, man.
You’re talking to Americans here. Fucking cowards aren’t even willing to block traffic or occupy buildings. The mere suggestion of a response that’s a step or two beyond that, approaching something halfway proprtionate? They’ll piss their pants in fear, clutch their pearls and start attacking YOU more forcefully than they’d ever come at MAGA.
A perfect example of this is what happens when you suggest voting third party.
In the US system voting third party IS clown-brain shit, though.
Smarter than voting for genociders
Nope, it’s really not. There’s nothing stopping third parties from winning except for takes like yours.
This is fantastically stupid, we’ve seen the duopoly successfully attack third party candidates before, there’s a whole lot more in the way than the attitudes of random voters
Have you seen American police? They have machine guns, tanks, and air support. They’ve been trained to see citizens as the enemy for years (see Warrior Cop Training).
And your move is to… keep allowing this and keep your head down?
Congratulations. You have agreed to a political morality where the government’s entitlement to your obedience increases in direct proportion to how willing it is to fucking kill you.
Look, I’m old and have serious health issues. Your comments are ableist and simplistic. I’m not going to unilaterally sacrifice myself.
No they’re completely right, plenty of old people throughout history have managed not to be fucking cowards
Americans, forever unable to imagine collective action except as a series of unilateral individual decisions. Okay, great- clearly your best move, then, is to shit-talk direct action in spaces where people considering it are likely to gather.
If you don’t want to put your comfort at risk, fine. Very least you could do is not actively contribute to the problem.
You don’t really understand American life. We work ourselves nearly to death because our unions have been broken and gutted and demonized, we have no decent healthcare and we still have to spend an unacceptable amount of time and money for it, most of us are enslaved by the cost of our enormous cars and by housing that is increasingly exploited by private equity, and we are constantly barraged by divisive propaganda and suspicion campaigns. This all results in a populace that is spent. You may experience some of that, but you cannot imagine the totally of it, which is why it seems so easy for you. Maybe your age is also a factor?
Either way, I’m not changing any minds here. There’s not enough upvotes to worry about, so your complaint seems like looking for a moral panic to pin on me, which is pretty funny.
You chose to confine yourself inside that box.
No more than you, who does nothing but complain loudly.
plus it’s objectively wrong as exemplified by the last election
You think that changes the truth?
No, I just think it’s ironic given the community this is posted in.
Why?
The only truth here is that this post pushes an objectively false statement.
It doesn’t make something “objectively” false just because you disagree with it.
Did you come to that realization on your own? Good job catching up to the rest of the class, it must’ve been difficult.
You pretending not to understand the intent of a message just makes you look like an idiot, rather than demean the value of the message as you had intended.
I understand both what was intended and what is objective. It’s just a stupid attempt.
They’re right, cry about it
Nah, crying about internet comments is magat behavior.
Your brain is broken
Ooo sick burn. Do another.
Unnecessary
I think that it fucking sucks.
Nonsense. It’s from choosing the worat of two evils/imperfect choices. There are very few if any perfect choices ever.
You were offered 2 bowls of shit, and instead of refusing shit you chose the one that you thought was the better choice. Either way you chose shit
Not really, because if people consistently choose the lesser evil. Like if 90% voted for lesser evils, then the other party would have to change things up, or there could be a new party that would have a chance of winning because they’re competing for that 90% of people and no way would the evil party win.
But no, problems isn’t choosing lesser evil, it’s that significant people still choose evil
The problem is that, despite people swearing they never had any other choice, there has always been many instances of good options that go unchosen while the population fights over voting for turbo-evil vs naturally-aspirated-evil.
Here in Canada we have three main parties and people will do ANYTHING to justify why they cannot vote progressive and must vote for the centrist/conservative party because otherwise the conservative-conservatives might get power. Now we have a banker steam-rolling our people and our environment for free.
Your assuming lesser evil stays the same. If they move lock step with the greater evil though then guess what?
Then a new party will form. Again, if the votes are not split 50:50 and it’s pretty much only on the lesser evil, then a good alternative party can easily grab the votes of the frustrated citizens without risking “splitting the vote and letting greater evil win”
What are you talking about? This is not a hypothetical. That’s what already happened. And a new party didn’t form. Because we were kept being told to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Ok then, so what’s your solution? I’m still gonna vote for the lesser evil, while still organizing and doing direct action, to reduce harm unless presented with an alternative.
Maybe a candidate that’s good? You could run for an office.
Edit: essentially I mean for the situation at hand, especially with this upcoming election, what else can we do?
You just keep doing what the bumper sticker says, obviously. You vote for the red and they hit you and rob you, vote for the blue and they rob you nicely.
How is this hard for people?
Republicans do what they want and the Democrats ask us to vote for them a little harder and, eventually, they will be able to do something, as long as precedent isn’t broken, as long as it’s the “high road”, as long as it’s not something the parliamentarian can override, etc…
currently,
-hakeem is secretly meeting with kushner. He is also taking Thiel money and setup and AI “regulations committee” with other Dems who take Thiel money.
-AIPAC Dems are funding AIPAC Republicans over actual left candidates
-tammy duckworth says that we shouldnt impeach and should work WITH the traitornazirapistpedophilicwarcriminals.
Can you please explain to me how voting for the “lesser” evil is helpful?
L take
Hmmm. Really seems like the government today is directly the result of not choosing the lesser evil 2 years ago.
Using AI for some tepid take about evil is fucking hilarious.
