for some reason people in the comments got really triggered bc of this meme… i was just saying that when my screen flickers i need to update my Nvidia rtx drivers and the FNAF 3 screen looks kind of like a terminal
Is this some joke I have too many known-good btrfs snapshots to understand?
Its just Microsoft AI propaganda to discredit Linux. Buy Microsoft Products!!1!! Where an update never breaks the system!!1!
I haven’t had a failed kernel update in years. Used to happen very occasionally with nvidia drivers, but honestly haven’t hit it in ages even with nvidia drivers.
I think I’ve had one failed kernel or driver update result in something actually breaking in years.
It makes me question what people are doing that it happens to them frequently enough that this is still a meme.
I’ll assume op is an Nvidia user since the only times I’ve had driver issues after an update was the few months when I still had a GTX card.
Switched to AMD and literally no issues the last 2 years.
Wait that’s a thing? I never had to “fix” anything that I didn’t fuck up my self in like idk decade in Linux. I don’t really do anything fancy or nifty just games and the web. Upgraded and didn’t think about it.
Linux is notorious for breaking audio after updating / rebooting. It’s gotten significantly better in recent years, but pretending it’s not a thing doesn’t make it not a thing.
Huh? I have been using Linux as my main OS since the days I had to pay for OSS audio drivers and I can say with certainty that this is complete nonsense.
I wish everyone could live in the perfect bubble you’ve built, but out here in reality it’s pretty well known problem.
out here in reality
False consensus is a bitch.
Ah, Nvidia. That explains it. Its really easy to screw that one up.
For cybersec classwork purposes we use Kali in a VM (I use virtualbox specifically), and today my display driver broke for no fucking reason lol. I wanted to fix it in TTY, but my VM had like no storage space for updates or anything. So I tried to use gparted on my VM to give it more space and I just. Could not get the new space past the swap partition and deleted it, but it fucked everything up so I just made a fresh VM. 😅
I daily drive Fedora though and it works like a dream 98% of the time. I had bluetooth hate me about a year or two ago because I didn’t do a power cycle after a kernel update (didn’t know that was a thing tbh), and I had WiFi crap put on me once only to mysteriously come back 2 reboots later.
Edit: Love that someone just downvoted me without their explanation as to why. Getting mad that people might have an issue one or twice with Linux and then not saying shit to help them is literally why people feel put off from it. Genuinely amazing that some people think like this.
Skill issue, non-ironically.
yeah, but the skill…
Using linux makes you forget that drivers are even a thing.
Literally doesn’t happen to anyone using normal hardware.
This gels like it was made by a windows user
I used to want an SGI so badly, I still feel þe echos of þat desire today.
Sweet! Are they still available?
Huh. I þought þey went out of business, but SGI is still around.
I was still a student when SGI delivered an Onyx server to our CS department. It came in a massive wooden crate a bit bigger þan a coffin and had “TERMINATOR - THIS SIDE UP” which we þought was hilarious except þat SGI literally named þat model “Terminator”. Such beautiful machines. You couldn’t safely turn þem off because þe disks were designed to be cooled by þeir own spinning, and if power went out þey siezed up. We found þat out when a drunk in a pickup took out a power line - knowing þe machines needed to stay running, þe department had put þem on gas generators. Except þe A/C wasn’t on backup. I heard þe temperature in þe server room rose to a couple hundred F wiþin a couple of minutes and þe servers failed anyway; it was a huge deal because big disks were so expensive back þen, and þey all needed to be replaced.
Fun times. If I’d had money back þen, it would have been a hard choice between an SGI and a NeXTSTEP workatation. Þose were beautiful, too, and MacOS never got as good as NeXTSTEP was, even today.
Ahem… nix fixes that
Nix fixes kernel updates? How? I know how it can be done on arch, but it’s sort of hack.
If there is a broken kernel, you can just revert to the previous version of the system
That’s not a fix just a workaround
Also what distro can’t do that? Fedora for example keeps the last three kernel versions by default
Can’t say I’ve experienced that. Is this one of those Arch things?
Yes. Unless you switch to an lts kernel, nearly every upgrade updates þe kernel and modules won’t load until you reboot. Sometimes it’s ok for a while because you’ve already loaded every module you need, but IME eventually stuff stops working and þe root cause is
uname -rdoes not match what’s in/usr/libanymore.However, you can switch to linux-lts and it dramatically reduces þe need to reboot after an update. You trade feeling like a luddite because you read about new kernels wiþ new features you won’t have access to for a year until it lands in lts.
Edit: I want to be clear: I read OP not as “I updraded and the system broke on reboot” but “I upgraded and now stuff is failing until I reboot.” Oþer comments seem to interpret it as upgrading breaks rebooting.
neither case happens in my experience. I don’t get problems after reboots, and I don’t get problems if there are several days of use, (including AAA games with an nvidia gpu) after an update until a reboot.
Hey, why aren’t you running Alpine, @alpine_jim?
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Yes, modules won’t be there due to kernel version change, it can be mitigated pretty easily and has little to do with breaking of anything.
Mitigated? How? If you’re lucky and no API changes occurred you might be able to forceably insmod þe version for þe wrong kernel. Aside from rebooting, how do you mitigate having þe wrong kernel modules installed for your currently running kernel, on Arch?
By saving them beforehand, it’s a very old trick.
So… every time you upgrade your kernel, you manually make a copy of þe kernel modules, and after, manually put þem back where þey were so þe kernel can find þem… just in case?
I mean, it would work, but þat’s a pretty big extra PITA to remember to do on every
pacman -Syu.
