Despite a wildly unpopular war with Iran, a mass protest movement for peace hasn’t materialized — at least in the ways we’ve been taught to recognize.

  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Iraq was a surprise (to many, anyway)

    Iran, everyone in USA has been aware of our pending fight with Iran for the past 50 years or more. Iran and USA have rattled sabres regularly, you’d have to be totally disconnected from US foreign affairs to be unaware of this. It has been expected.

    We’ve been at war with Iran for decades, using drones and missiles and jet fighters and even putting boots on the ground. Iraq was our proxy state who received military equipment and chemical weapons from us to fight in the 80 and 90s (at least).

    More than these three countries are involved in the war. Some have even switch sides. Just like USA isn’t just the USA, and uses other states to fight, so does Iran.

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      3 days ago

      I think any unprovoked war is a surprise.

      I think even the US government was surprised when Trump decided to join Israel in attacking Iran.

      The US’s end game seems to be to defeat communism and spread American corporate exploitation but I don’t expect the US to go to war with other countries, they often try regime change, though. Venezuela was a surprise too so maybe the US is behaving in unexpected ways now.

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        2 days ago

        It was provoked. Iran provokes the USA constantly.

        (provoke= attack of US holdings, US doesn’t like it when you blow up their things)

        And the USA provokes Iran constantly. If anyone gets lazy with security in Iran’s government, the USA kills them with a drone strike. And, we blow up their things, too (I’m including Israel with USA in that “we”)

        This isn’t an “Iran vs. USA thing”. It’s “Israel, USA, Saudis, and more” against “Iran, Lebanon, Syria, and more”. It’s been escalating for years and years, slowly but surely. Iran funds HAMAS, Hezbollah, and various rebel groups, and the US does the same (for Kurds et al).

        All of these groups are fighting in Syria and elsewhere in middle east. There are at least a dozen different factions fighting in Syria right now. Hundreds of thousands of people have died.

        I encourage you to look at the recent history (and further back, decades). Neither country (including proxies) can say that they haven’t provoked the other with frequency.

        Why they don’t call it WWIII, I have no idea.

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          2 days ago

          Okay, so right before the Israel-US attack you were expecting it? Interesting. The United States didn’t even know the attack was going to happen until late February, days before the attack.

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            I wasn’t expecting that specific attack in that exact way, but of course I expected “an attack”.

            To me, an attack is the exact opposite of interesting… it’s mundane. The USA sends hundreds of drone strikes alone every year.

            USA vs. Iran goes back eighty years.

            Other mundane (or interesting, depending) predictions for the next year using my advanced psychic powers:

            Russia will attack Ukraine.

            Ukraine will attack Russia.

            The USA will strike Iran

            Iran will strike the USA

            Israel will strike HAMAS

            HAMAS will strike Israel

            Iran will attack Israel

            Israel will attack Iran

            https://www.britannica.com/topic/US-Iran-Relations-A-Timeline