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    10 days ago

    And I’ll hazard a guess that those 1000 billionaires will still be billionaires. This is a no fucking brainer.

    Not that billionaires should exist, but there will actually be essentially zero impact if we tax them appropriately, so why not

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        10 days ago

        The sick part is that what is being asked is actually so inconsequential to the billionaires that not only will their line still go up, if we change nothing else but this, even wealth inequality itself will still keep going up, it will just go up at a slightly less supersonic speed. They don’t even care about the amount of money we’re asking for, they care about the precedent that if we can take this from them, what’s stopping us from taking everything from them.

        That’s what they’re actually scared of. That’s why they resist this so hard. That’s why they don’t bend. They think that once the people slip out of their stranglehold they will get a taste of billionaire blood and they will like it.

        And they might be right.

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          That and the fact that they can’t extract profits from services which have been made public. If we get free healthcare there are a bunch of leeches insurance execs that will be out of a job.

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    10 days ago

    Wait, by their own math we can get most of the list with the 5% wealth tax? Fucking sold. It would cover everything but Medicare for all and student debt. Give me that 32 hour work week.

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      It covers more than that, once you recover enough to actually fight a legal battle against the 1% they can pursue tax cheats and tax fraud where recovery bumps up to making five dollars for every dollar spent pursuing the debt. It’s take huge chunks out of the national debt every decade kinda money.

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        They’re also claiming that 90% of the proposal is Medicare for All. So everything else in the list would be $3550 per household per year if their claim of $35500 per year is to be believed.

        I don’t know that they’re making the argument they think they’re making

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    10 days ago

    Damn, that’s a lot less than I thought it would cost for everyone to have equal access to healthcare.

    If it’s that cheap, why are we denying healthcare to anyone?

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      10 days ago

      Because the United States is an open-air labor camp, and medical care is a stick to make us work.

      Also keeps competition down. I know more than one family where one parent is working a shit job just so their business-owning partner can have medical benefits.

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    Manageable conceptual dollars if you want some basic fun math, look up the cost of the US Army (only army mind you) apache program, and then pull the numbers for the cost of Snap benefits for the entire country.

    It is a priorities issue, not a money issue. I can’t be more clear in this; the government “for the people, by the people” no longer gives a single solitary fuck about any person. It is an oligarchy, kleptocracy, corporate-ocracy pick a name. That is not my opinion, it’s an observable, demonstrable, objectively true statement.

    Military and government sponsored billionaire class.

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      Take it one step further: money is nothing but information about the priorities a society places on distribution of material and labor. Framed this way the perennial question of “where will the money come from” is absurd-the money comes from the consensus that we should do a thing.

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      profit issue imho. if the owning classes could profit and gain as much hegemony from healthcare and benefits as they do with a relatively easy “blow up brown children” weapons system… we’d have healthcare.

      the problem is capitalism

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    Isn’t the website saying it will COST $355,000 per family? I mean, this site is stupid but… Can we all not read?

    Edit: yo @sanitation@lemmy.today , can you clarify? Cos right now idk how your post got titled this way and I think its misinforming like 90% of the commenters

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      They include some interesting budgets in there to inflate it to be fair, but they also leave out the stuff that I have to pay for currently like health care costs. Tbh it would prob be a net equivalent. Even still I’m all for it as a higher earner in this country if it means it will help others, me, and those that come after. Not to mention they used the corporate costs not the costs when we aren’t obsessed with profits