- cross-posted to:
- smbc@discuss.online
- cross-posted to:
- smbc@discuss.online
cross-posted from: https://discuss.online/post/46578520
http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/prompt-3
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Back when I was in art school, we believed in this with all our hearts.
Bonus panel
AI will never want to be fucked, therefore AI can never create art.
What about ace people?
I think a much more universial example would be that AI will never desire garlic bread

Wait, what did you say?
How about AI will never want to be loved?
The key is needing to impress people to convince them to feel a certain way about you, something that garlic bread does not capture.
People make art for themselves all the time.
Self love
One of my core memories is the shy girl in my photography class at community college complementing the pictures I took of my cat.
Remember, AI cannot hold a copyright. That AI art you created? No you didn’t, AI did and it’s basically public domain.
Well, its “skill” was built on public domain or via piracy, so its result should be public domain too.
Hell, my interpretation of the “derivative works” clause of GPL stipulates that all llm and genai products should also be gpl.
Hell, my interpretation of the “derivative works” clause of GPL stipulates that all llm and genai products should also be gpl.
…an interpretation broad enough to cover that would also mean that anyone who has ever seen GPL code before would only ever be able to write GPL code ever again. The idea of which I imagine would give Richard Stallman an erection you could see from space,
That’s close to the actual intention. Most MIT rewrites of GPL projects don’t accept contributions from people familiar with the original codebase.
Think more extreme than that, as in “if you’ve ever seen any GPL code whatsoever, it has in some small way impacted your understanding of code and now all code you write forevermore must be GPL” rather than just the codebase of the thing you are re-implementing because that’s the kind of breadth you’d have to apply to the “derivative works” clause in GPL to argue all gen AI code must be GPL because the training data contains some GPL code.
Prose: Art
Prose ran through a machine : NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT’S NOT HECKING ART!Fuck the AI companies but come on man.
That’s not the same thing at all though? When you provide a prompt to an AI, you’re basically just feeding it instructions on what to make. I don’t think anyone would ever refer to an instruction manual as art.
AI doesn’t “make” anything. It steals. All you get when you prompt an AI, is a poor copy of an original piece that it was trained on. Otherwise, you’re completely correct.
This represents such an entirely wrong idea of what’s going on that it’s almost hilarious. The model doesn’t just have an internal database of all the training data that it, like, collages together. Holy fuck, if a model internally contained all of the training data in a form it could simply be retrieved from it would be far more valuable as data compression than anything else it might be or do.
What’s much closer is that an image generation model has seen millions of pictures, each labeled with metadata about what it is a picture of, each of which causes tiny adjustments to the neural networks weights, because the model is being trained to be able to look at a novel picture and recognize “this picture is of a dog pissing on an apple tree”. Any model that can do that can also be run in reverse - essentially “here is a block of white noise I am saying is supposed to be a really noisy picture of a dog pissing on an apple tree, try to clean up the noise and show me how it looks like a dog pissing on an apple tree”, then run that in a loop until the picture doesn’t change much between iterations. It doesn’t need to have seen something precisely identical to what it’s generating - with enough training data it has an internal model for things like dogs, clowns or what makes something look like anime and the generation just tickles the bits until the picture rates as probably being what’s being asked for.
It isn’t wrong, it’s a simplification. You REALLY like the smell of your own farts, huh?
Color does not matter, said the blind man.
Go listen to Skullgrid
What is it and can I have a link?
It’s an album by the prog-metal band “Behold the Arctopus”
And listening to it (or more realistically, reading the lyrics) will convince me of what exactly?
No idea. The guy who suggested you listen to it, seems to think it’s the best album ever, tho- considering he named himself after it.
So I will learn about this user at least, but I’m struggling to find the motivation.
Art is about creating emotion. AI art does create emotions/feelings (hate, anger, nausea, etc).
So does posting a giant pile of diarrhea.
There have in fact been very successful art installations involving human waste and feces.
If they don’t respect the art enough to properly create it, then I’m not going to respect it either.







