Are you gonna post the same memes insulting half the democratic voters until they lose the midterms?
These posts just feel like pure projection on your part.
I will keep on shitposting on the “both sides bad” clowns that pop up like mushrooms every late election cycle, until they do something useful, thank you for asking!
Well don’t let me stop you from supporting diet maga then, I’m sure the world will improve immensely with your corporate funded genocide supporters in charge…
TIL “Rights for Trans people” is diet “No Rights for Trans people”, and it makes no difference to real people since both sides same.
Care to favor us with some more political insights, Rousseau?
As a trans person living under a far-right government, you should go fuck yourself if you support the Democratic party.
Remember, poor people rely on you to gatekeep the movement. Think about how people struggling with medical bills will feel if they find out you let a non-vegan help. Not on my watch.
purity progressives: “I mean yea, he wants universal healthcare, ending wars, abolishing ICE and the police, investing in schools and the arts, social safety nets and taxing the rich… but… he called RFK jr an r-word one time… so, he’s basically a nazi and I hope he dies”
The ability to form political coalitions with people on an issue by issue basis
… is the ability to govern
Absolutely not, I will only work with people I 100% agree with, and I will happily throw the people I 75% agree with to the people I 0% agree with if I don’t get my way!
/s
The only group acting like that is you “both sides aren’t the same” types, who call people tankies and commies and “purity testers”, and who post denigrating strawman memes like you did, all because others aren’t voting for the candidate you want them to, despite your so-called tankie enemies ostensibly agreeing on every social issue. What’s the difference between these two groups other than their voting strategy? That sounds like 75% agreement to me. And what is it when you demean these people and shoot down every candidate they’d actually support as “too radical”? Sounds like throwing them to the people you 0% agree with to me.
Maybe double check that sarcasm tag.
What candidate do I want people to vote for this election? What candidate am I shooting down as too radical?
Let’s say we had Harris and Mamdani in the running for Democratic nominee. Who would you want nominated? Who would you suggest people vote for?
And if Harris ended up the nominee, you’d want me to vote for her, wouldn’t you? And if I didn’t I’d be, in your mind, exactly the kind of “leftist infighter” and purity tester that you’re posting about, wouldn’t I?
cut to the chase, people making a political stunt to refuse to vote or a symbolic vote for a candidate they knew had no shot (Jill Stein)… all basically voted for Trump.
You can be mad at the DNC for their bullshit, and you’re justified. But when the cards were on the table, the time for debate was over… instead of fighting against the worst president in history… you said “they deserve it”. If that was your attitude, you lose the right to say that you’re against fascism. Because you still had some manner of power to choose, and you chose to not give a fuck.
My thought process was not what you say it is.
My mental model of the election dynamic is more complicated than the one you presented, so bear with me.
My thought process was:
How did we even come to the point that Trump had a shot at winning? And I remember back when we said the same thing about Bush, and about Reagan before that. And then I had a horrible thought:
What if, just like how Reagan presided over the country becoming unbelievably worse, and then Bush presided over that continuing to happen… What if Trump is only the worst thing so far? What if we all vote for an establishment dem out of fear, just as last time, and the time before that, and the time before that, and the time before that… And even if they win (as they do every so often) they don’t really do what anyone wants, and America keeps becoming more and more horrible to live in, and people keep getting more desperate, education keeps getting worse, and suddenly - someone even worse than Trump is now a viable candidate?
After all, America has generally gotten nothing but worse since the 1980s. There have been some serious social wins, but they’re incredibly overshadowed by economic losses. Sure gay people can get married now, but they (ans everyone else) are also far closer to being effectively enslaved than they were 40 years ago…
So with all that in mind I thought, “if only those people in the past, before the consequences were too dire, had stuck to their guns through those hard times and forced the party to really represent them next time” and I realized that, to them, at their time, it must have felt as dire as it felt now to me.
So I made a sacrifice to my own current well-being, because I was trying to lay the groundwork for a greater well-being for everyone in the future. My decision had nothing to do with punishing others, nothing to do with not giving a fuck, and its sad to me that that’s the only explanation you can think of.
I want to say something like: “You lose the right to say you’re against fascism, because you refused to make a short term sacrifice for future generations, you refused to look at even contemporary history, you refused… Etc”
But I won’t say that, because you were trying to do the right thing too, and you just didn’t see the situation the same way as me. But you wanted the same thing. And even though from my perspective, you enabled fascism, I would never dare say you’re not against it just because I disagree with your methods. Try to do me the same courtesy.
Before primaries? Sure by all means, infight!
After primaries and before general election? Unite against fascist Republicans and support Democrats. Pretty simple.
How do you know someone is a nazi? Anyone who denies republicans are worse are themselves a fascist.
Funny, my litmus test starts at “do they support a genocide?” and then move on to things like “do they want to expand the militaristic police surveillance state?” and “are they running on being tough on immigrants?” and “do they do violent crackdowns on peaceful protesters?” and “do they protect womens rights?” and “do they protect queer people?” and “do they throw minorities and marginalised groups under the bus in order to appease right wing fanatics?” and “are they warmongers?”
Funny how that is. Funny how some of us only seem to care about whether or not their team is winning, while others care about what the teams are doing. Very funny.
Well you know that is funny because I guess I’m more able to step back and look at the big picture from a rational standpoint; you know, logically looking at every single issue:
- Are Democrats better than Republicans on support for Ukraine against the Russian Genocide? — Yes.
- Are Democrats better than Republicans on LGBTQ+ Rights? — Yes.
- Are Democrats better on women’s rights and abortion rights — Yes.
- Are Democrats better on antitrust? — Yes. (See what they did to Ticketmaster and what Trump reversed).
- Are Democrats better than Republicans on Climate Change — Yes. (Republicans backed out of Paris Climate Agreement)
- Are Democrats better at handling global pandemics? — Yes. (better science adherence; Republicans backed out of WHO).
- Are Democrats better at not committing January 6’s? — Yes.
- Is ALL opposition to Palestinian genocide in government from Democrats? (Abdul, Mamdani, Bernie Sanders, Tlaib, etc.) — YES.
So, anyone who is not supporting Democrats over Republicans is of course enabling an objectively-worse party and President (Trump). I mean if I was Palestinian I certainly would take my choice of any Democrat over any Republican! Worse than that, they are objectively stating that they do not care about the other issues mentioned (and this is non-exhaustive).
Single-issue voters are bad, even when it comes to allegations of genocide (because there is a gradient to even one genocide, let alone the second you conveniently neglect to discuss).
Thus, the default position should be: Anyone willing to allege Republicans are equal or better than Democrats should be treated as a nazi because their ill-logic in fact supports the worst evil, the nazi.
(It’s kinda like that saying, “If there’s a nazi at a table and ten other people there, you got 11 nazis.” Well, if you have a nazi, a Dem, and someone saying “BoTh SiDes!”, then you’ve got 2 nazis.)
- Is ALL opposition to Palestinian genocide in government from Democrats? (Abdul, Mamdani, Bernie Sanders, Tlaib, etc.) — YES.
What are you talking about? You know that Republicans like MTG exist right? And you know that AOC herself voted against MTG’s Iron Dome defunding bill right?
“in government” — did you see that part?
You do know MTG was kicked out right and no longer occupied a public seat… Right… ? It’s not even close. Leaving aside support differences for Ukraine.
Iron Dome is purely a defensive asset to protect civilians; anyone who cares about children would do the same.
The only reason Israel can bomb other nations to hell as much as they want is the Iron Dome dipshit, and Israeli citizens are civilians as much as Afrikaners are civilians. If they want peace, they can get the fuck out of some random Palestinian’s house and go back to Europe.
This is the first time I’m hearing “Won’t somebody think of the Israeli children” too, so congratulations on that note as well.
Please directly answer and acknowledge your mistake in reading my original comment:
“in government” — did you see that part?
You do know MTG was kicked out right and no longer occupied a public seat… Right… ? It’s not even close. Leaving aside support differences for Ukraine.
Yes I care about children no matter where they live. Only people who are fucked in the head would say otherwise.
You do know MTG was kicked out right and no longer occupied a public seat… Right… ? It’s not even close. Leaving aside support differences for Ukraine.
Yeah, I’ll concede on that, though it appears that she didn’t get kicked out but resigned instead.
Yes I care about children no matter where they live. Only people who are fucked in the head would say otherwise.
Nobody is trying to murder children in the region except for Israel asshat. As I said in my previous response, the Iron Dome only works to prevent retaliation from neighbouring countries so that Israel can murder and pillage as much as it wants. Your shitty attempts at “Think of the children” don’t work on this platform. If Israel is so worried about that, then it can stop doing genocide, and its people can get the fuck out of Palestinian homes.
Until then, you’ll keep voting for those who help the Nazis of today. Congrats! Lesser evil, amirite? 😜
