• mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    27 days ago

    It shouldn’t be up to discord or any other internet entity to verify the age of its users.

    Parents. Parents should be monitoring their child’s Internet usage.

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    28 days ago

    Part of me thinks is this just performative nonsense that will always have enormous holes in it, like Prohibition.

    Scanning “your” face to prove your age is really just scanning a face.

    But I also worry about successive noose tightening.

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      28 days ago

      Part of me agrees and the other part thinks it’s going to go the way of the automobile.

      Everyone needs a license, issued from big brother, to use the public service.

      Or else!

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          We could go back and forth all day on this, but just watch out for the government trying to claim “you need an ID for this because the anonymous people online can hurt you”.

          They’ll find a way to justify it, by some string of twisted logic that makes it equivalent to killing someone in an accident. It’ll probably be about protecting the kids, it’s always about protecting the kids.

          Oh well, I think we’re on the same side here. I joined the EFF!

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      27 days ago

      Open source is the way. It always amuses me when people move from one proprietary system to a different one, since the new one always ends up having the same issues.

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            27 days ago

            I wouldn’t call it a shit show, they were first in E2E encrypted collaborative messaging platforms and get all the hits. Moderation turned out to be incompatible with E2E encryption. People kicked out of channels can still decrypt because keys revocation hasn’t been made.

            Matrix server is a resource hog and a mess, and the protocol has never took off to spark alternative implementations.

            Encryption doesn’t scale well for big channels.

            They got many things right, but got crippled by many things they couldn’t possibly predict.

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          27 days ago

          Matrix is a bit of a shit show

          How so?

          and also isn’t a discord alternative to begin with

          It absolutely is. A “Space” is the equivalent to a Discord “server”. It’s not perfect and polished, but it does the job. I’ve been using it rather than Discord with my gaming group for a year now.

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        27 days ago

        hmm I thought they leaned relatively against AI slop. Wouldn’t this be because they were working on it privately or something for quite some time?

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            27 days ago

            This commit was the refactor commit from the private dev flow to the open source repo. The process basically added a lot of files and deleted a bunch as well. it was long overdue but I wouldn’t expect constant 11m line code changes

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              26 days ago

              You really don’t understand what 11m lines of code is. Only a collective of humans over many years can create 11m lines of code. It is an absolute batshit insane amout of code.

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                26 days ago

                yea 11m changes is quite a bit at once but, I wouldn’t expect a constant change like that. After all, the monorepo itself is a little over 3m lines, 1.37m of it being lang/locale files for every language for its front end, 600k of it is comments, and 1.5m is the rest of it.

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                  Wow, I thought the actual functional part was around 1m. I am going to check the loc to see if it makes sense in my second language, LLMs are pretty consistent on their translation errors.

            • Null User Object@lemmy.world
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              27 days ago

              A refactoring would have a relatively similar number of subtractions as additions. This is almost entirely additions. This is not just refactoring.

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                27 days ago

                Not necessarily. Huge additions without matching deletions often happen during restructurings like vendorizing dependencies, importing external packages, generating bindings, or migrating private repos into a monorepo. In these cases new code canbbe introduced to repository and there will be no corresponding deletions in commit history.

                I’ve did similar restructurings myself, eg. Making automatically generated resources static

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                  26 days ago

                  You have no idea what 11 million likes of code is do you? LibreOffice is 11m, Android is 12m, MySQL is 10m. Those projects took years to code not 9 months. I am going to have to ask you to stay in your lane, and I pray that is not Software Engineering.

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        27 days ago

        What’s this supposed to mean? I’ve done similar things when restructuring my code. Git tries it’s best to keep track of files changing directories but sometimes you just go fuck it and abandon the history because Git is being a git.

        I’d be more concerned about consistent 10k+ changes per day or something

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          27 days ago

          10 million LOC addition in one month is not a red flag to you?

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            27 days ago

            Meh. I’ve seen (and done) worse, honestly. Again would be more concerning if they kept it up

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              … What?

              I’m incredibly productive, and have had the joy of working on productive teams. And unless they are working with hundreds of full time, high performing, engineers. You ain’t changing 10 million lines in a month.

              With AI, it’s technically possible, but I can only imagine the slop. It’s likely incomprehensible at this point.

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                27 days ago

                Just speaking from personal experience. Here’s a story.

                One time I did a massive refactor, basically touching every function in the software. For background, this was a massive enterprise application. The backend was about 10 million lines of code, the front end was… probably triple that, I didn’t bother counting. Yes, building the code took more than an hour, even on extremely beefy machines.

                The reason for this refactor was there was a huge amount of tech debt that finally caught up to us. You know, putting it off for years, using deprecated functions and old methods, feature flags, even forking software and modifying it to be compatible. Just years of finding creative solutions, until finally things said “enough” and there was no more bandaids. I was given the green light to fix up everything at once. Programmer’s wet dream, at least for me; I was so happy.

                Anyway, in this project, we did rebase not merge. So, after 3 months of working diligently in a branch; I had to rebase the whole fucking thing because my coworkers obviously weren’t idle that whole time. This part I didn’t enjoy so much.

                It took 2 weeks to rebase all the merge conflicts. It took so long, I had to rebase again. Multiple times. Each rebase getting closer and closer to being able to finally merge into master.

                Finally I did it. I told everyone else to just relax and take the day off, while I merge into master and fix all the problems. There was many problems of course. But the final commit was tens of millions of lines of code changed, all by myself. This was before LLMs. But I have the type of brain that can sit there for 9 hours straight every day and tidy up code and enjoy it.

                Edit: just to clarify, “rebase” makes it look like all those changes happened at once instead of spread out over months, and would make a huge spike like that. Also just because LLM wasn’t a thing didn’t mean I did it all manually… I heavily used find-and-replace, upgrade scripts, codemod, and many other automation tools. I think I even wrote a few manual codemod scripts to get it done.

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        27 days ago

        Is this substantiated?

        At this point for many projects it’s now depressingly, a matter of degree.

        • littleomid@feddit.org
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          27 days ago

          Look at the git and tell me. One guy, contributing 1.5m lines of code is not human made. It’s a matter of time before it falls apart and becomes unmaintainable.