Which high up in their church needed a transfusion?
Oh, don’t be so cynical. Maybe one of their elders bought a blood bank.
Despite the adjustment, the organisation was firm that its longstanding prohibition on whole-blood transfusions has not changed. It anchored the continued ban on its reading of biblical instructions to “abstain from blood,” signalling that the shift applies only to the four major components, not to transfusions in their entirety.
People died because of this and now they just go “we looked at the rules again and we think they actually mean something else”. What the fuck is this? The Supreme Court?
What are the “four major components.”
and “abstain from blood” in biblical times for sure meant “transfusions” too *head -> desk"
It’s probably because they had issues with blood types.
I’d say the only “blood types” around where those people drinking blood.
It’s stupid. All they had to do was prohibit eating of blood 70 years ago and nobody would have blinked an eye, because that’s exactly what the verse meant in its entirety. The whole blood loophole they’ve done here to save face is meaningless, since whole blood is almost never used except in severe trauma and even then you can use fractions and have a pretty good chance of recovering. A whole lot of people had to die to get here. It sucks.
While I despise organized religion, this is a good thing. It’ll save lives.
https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/jehovahs-witnesses-just-gutted-their
Correction: this will end about 70 years of people senselessly ending their own lives for their religion. Nobody is being “saved” in this situation.
Tons of people have religion forced on them. Especially children and the poor.
Prayers for those who died of blood loss 2 hours before God pushed the “allow transfusions” hotfix ☹️ 🙏
All religions are a form of mental illness. Religion is the greatest threat facing humanity BY FAR.
Because even after our little temporary oil-powered blip of 8 billion people lobbing planes full of bombs at each other collapses, we’ll still keep inventing gods to disagree over.
It definitely is not the political system of capitalism. Trump is such a devout Christian.
The faith people have in capitalism is the same as their faith in their religion. Trump is the leader to his own religion.
As explained, the economics don’t matter. We seem wired to invent nonsense and hack each other to pieces because of myths.
This is your brain on Reddit Atheism
Historical fact. Religion is a mental illness. The end.
This is your brain on Reddit Atheism
Brains exist. Reddit exists.
Your god(s), not so much.
I’m not even a Christian and this is a genuinely rubbish take, go and look up William Wilberforce for example.
Edit: I feel that I really have to stress what I thought was obvious, the notion that every human being from behavioural modernity to the Enlightenment was mentally ill is so foolish on the face of it that it isn’t worth even entertaining even for the sake of argument.
Yes, they were. I am mentally ill too, I am depressed, I am anxious, we all have some degree of what one generation ago was a mental illness and now isn’t.
Mental illness doesn’t mean dysfunctional or crazy, but if you have a heart surgeon that’s also a Flat Earther, what do you call that?
I believe!!! That Satan has a hold of you. I believe! That the Lord God has sent me here! And I believe that in 1978 God changed his mind about black people!!
Happy to see this. I never like operating on JW patients because of the blood rule.
My great aunt was a JW. She lived a fairly long life but it could have been longer. she refused care at the end because of her beliefs. Unreal the control that religions have over people in the guise of morality and an afterlife. So stupid.
Belief in an afterlife is one of the most unfortunate delusions. I would love for it to be true, but the reality is once you die, that’s the end.
So… which higher up at the JW organization needed a life saving transfusion? No way they changed their minds on this unprompted.
Why? Shouldn’t they happy to be able to visit God sooner?
They realized it counts as suicide, maybe?
Aaahhh, so god visited somebody to give this great news? We love in the times where there are cameras everywhere, so where is the video of this momentous event?
An old JW boss of mine almost lost his wife during the birth of his first child when she was badly haemorrhaging at home.
I tried asking him about it (a few years after the event) and he was obviously defensive, but the gist was that they wouldn’t have taken a transfusion, and that he would have accepted losing her.
I’m not convinced - I think the decision was more dictated by her than him - but that would have been the end result.
Absolute madness
Did you tell him his religion is made up dogshit and there is no god?
Controlling men like that need to have a life changing surgery of their own before they harm more women like that.
I prescribe a sharp metal pick and a hammer personally.
I think you missed the point of this. I believe it was her influence more than his, based on other factors I’m aware of.
Unless you’re referring to the writers of the church doctrine as the controlling men.
Tbf religions ARE supposed to update terms & conditions.
They’re really not. Religions are usually based on the idea that an infallible deity or deities created everything.
If the terms and conditions get updated, that means that the deity/deities are not infallible, and the whole thing kinda falls apart.
If the religious elders are updating their understanding of the terms and conditions, then they’re not worth listening to and you should just be operating on your own understanding in the first place, which kills the whole idea of organized religion too.
Whenever I see stupid shit like JW refusing blood, i’m reminded of the parable of the man in the flood, who keeps getting rescuers coming to him time and time again, only to refuse it all with the declaration that god would save them… and then they finally die in the flood, and they angerly accost got about why god didnt save him, and god is all like “Fuck you, You fucking idiot. You refused every rescue that came your way. This is your fault for being stupid”
I’ve seen it in the form of a comic or a short story and God literally said “who do you think sent the rescuers” which if you believe in God is kinda how it’s supposed to work I believe, rather than God straight up lifting you out if the water
Christianity also updates its Ts&Cs on occasion, like in 2007 when Pope John Paul II had a document commisioned, the publication of which was also authorised by Pope Benedict XVI, that basically said unbaptised children now go to heaven instead of limbo.
At some point they HAVE to realize they’re just making this shit up.
The Mormon church ‘conveniently’ decided to change their rhetoric about non-white people being marked by god because of past sin, right around the time of the Civil Rights Movement.
They were also firmly disproven by DNA evidence in their claim that native Americans descended from Israelites. Oops.
